From traci.mwd at gmail.com  Fri Oct  2 16:53:27 2015
From: traci.mwd at gmail.com (Traci Wilkerson)
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 12:53:27 -0400
Subject: [blindkid] Band books for school
Message-ID: <CACWKtUfej3+EoCU7LjowQ6WzdYHx14SckTA9nVd7OBS10uZ_ag@mail.gmail.com>

 Standard of Excellence: Comprehensive Band Method  Talking to our band
teacher and he believes this book is updated with the latest music braille
code, does anyone know this to be accurate?

Anyone know if Traditions of Excellence is available updated as well?

Best sources? Can you buy most instrument versions in braille?  I'm having
trouble finding much of anything.  Would a call to APH be best?

Thanks!

-- 
Traci Wilkerson
Cell ? 919-971-6526


From owinm at yahoo.com  Fri Oct  2 16:55:30 2015
From: owinm at yahoo.com (Merry-Noel Chamberlain)
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 09:55:30 -0700
Subject: [blindkid] Band books for school
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From marianne at denningweb.com  Fri Oct  2 16:58:32 2015
From: marianne at denningweb.com (Marianne Denning)
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 12:58:32 -0400
Subject: [blindkid] Band books for school
In-Reply-To: <CACWKtUfej3+EoCU7LjowQ6WzdYHx14SckTA9nVd7OBS10uZ_ag@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACWKtUfej3+EoCU7LjowQ6WzdYHx14SckTA9nVd7OBS10uZ_ag@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANZu-JiBTMSyBNw+n+B5TPWRfBKd8azWoky58FL2DDR+NyM3nQ@mail.gmail.com>

If you go to APH and look it up in the Louis database you will see if it is
available.  I usually search by isbn.

On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 12:53 PM, Traci Wilkerson via blindkid <
blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>  Standard of Excellence: Comprehensive Band Method  Talking to our band
> teacher and he believes this book is updated with the latest music braille
> code, does anyone know this to be accurate?
>
> Anyone know if Traditions of Excellence is available updated as well?
>
> Best sources? Can you buy most instrument versions in braille?  I'm having
> trouble finding much of anything.  Would a call to APH be best?
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
> Traci Wilkerson
> Cell ? 919-971-6526
> _______________________________________________
> blindkid mailing list
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>



-- 
Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
(513) 607-6053


From carol.joyce.castellano at gmail.com  Fri Oct  2 20:04:24 2015
From: carol.joyce.castellano at gmail.com (Carol Castellano)
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 16:04:24 -0400
Subject: [blindkid] request for Braille books
Message-ID: <CACsEhVLUHfqd-6Z049C7Fbpr-2kbjAtYye2t+3VzAGGMH155BA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Everyone,

We have received the following request for books.

Carol

Carol Castellano
Parents of Blind Children-NJ
National Organization of Parents of Blind Children
973-377-0976
carol_castellano at verizon.net
www.blindchildren.org
www.nopbc.org

Subject :- Pray for the donation of used or old any kinds of Braille,
Print, Large Print and Moon Type Books, Religious Books and Educational
materials.

Dear Sir / Madam,
With due respect, with honor to inform you that, All Book Corporation is a
Charity Helping Organization in Bangladesh, We  provide our  service for
educational support to both Student and  Educated  Blind, Deaf Blind,
partially sighted and other disabled people free of cost by your kind
donation.
Our country is very poor. When the General Education for mass people is not
easy, there are blind and disabled education it quite impossible. Most of
the Blind, Deaf Blind, Partially Sighted, and other Disabled people are
poor. They doesn?t have the ability to buy Braille, Print or Large Print
books or other materials In our Country are the entire good, advance,
modern items are not found. Some Blind and other Disabled Children and
their parents don?t have the idea of this education or don?t have interest
in it.
We are trying our best to educate those Blind and other Disabled people.
Believe me we succeed a lot to educate those people
You know our organization is a charity, we run by donation. we cannot
afford to buy books and other Materials to them, we are trying our best to
educate them by your donation. We distribute all the donation item among
them.
In this regard, our request to you that, if you have any kinds of old or
used Braille, Print, Large Print, Moon-Type Book, Magazine, Journal,
Religious Books and other Educational Materials, Please donate us.
We are very interested to received those kinds of Books:
1. Holly Bible ( Old or New Transcript ) 2. Primary and High School Books.
3. College and University Books. 4. Magazine, Journal and newspaper. 5.
Novel and History Books for Children and Adult. 6. Dictionary and others
Books
If you are not able to help us, Please refer other people or Organization,
as they may be able to help us.
We wish that you would help us in this matter. We apologies, if we disturb
you
We are very fervency looking for your kind response.
Yours Faithfully-
Shaleha Begum (Maya)
Executive Director
All Book Corporation
Please don't write above the Packet, Books or materials Price, If necessary
to write the price, Please write $ 00.1, and this is only for our custom
fees.
[Sample of a packet label]
===============================================================
                                                             FREE MATTER
FOR THE BLIND
From,
Name                         : ?????????..
Organization Name: ???????????????
Address                     : ?????????????????

To,
Shaleha Begum (Maya)
Executive Director
All Book Corporation
12/E, 7/2, Mirpur, Pallabi, Dhaka ? 1216,
Bangladesh.
                                                            [DONATION FOR
THE BLIND]


From traci.mwd at gmail.com  Fri Oct  2 20:08:50 2015
From: traci.mwd at gmail.com (Traci W)
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 16:08:50 -0400
Subject: [blindkid] request for Braille books
In-Reply-To: <CACsEhVLUHfqd-6Z049C7Fbpr-2kbjAtYye2t+3VzAGGMH155BA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACsEhVLUHfqd-6Z049C7Fbpr-2kbjAtYye2t+3VzAGGMH155BA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F7EB5F09-C938-448F-8672-CCBDD7B8F5E2@gmail.com>

Do you have experience that we can ship "free matter for the blind" overseas?

I have a box of books just sitting!

Traci


Sent from my iPhone please pardon bad spelling!!

> On Oct 2, 2015, at 4:04 PM, Carol Castellano via blindkid <blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Everyone,
> 
> We have received the following request for books.
> 
> Carol
> 
> Carol Castellano
> Parents of Blind Children-NJ
> National Organization of Parents of Blind Children
> 973-377-0976
> carol_castellano at verizon.net
> www.blindchildren.org
> www.nopbc.org
> 
> Subject :- Pray for the donation of used or old any kinds of Braille,
> Print, Large Print and Moon Type Books, Religious Books and Educational
> materials.
> 
> Dear Sir / Madam,
> With due respect, with honor to inform you that, All Book Corporation is a
> Charity Helping Organization in Bangladesh, We  provide our  service for
> educational support to both Student and  Educated  Blind, Deaf Blind,
> partially sighted and other disabled people free of cost by your kind
> donation.
> Our country is very poor. When the General Education for mass people is not
> easy, there are blind and disabled education it quite impossible. Most of
> the Blind, Deaf Blind, Partially Sighted, and other Disabled people are
> poor. They doesn?t have the ability to buy Braille, Print or Large Print
> books or other materials In our Country are the entire good, advance,
> modern items are not found. Some Blind and other Disabled Children and
> their parents don?t have the idea of this education or don?t have interest
> in it.
> We are trying our best to educate those Blind and other Disabled people.
> Believe me we succeed a lot to educate those people
> You know our organization is a charity, we run by donation. we cannot
> afford to buy books and other Materials to them, we are trying our best to
> educate them by your donation. We distribute all the donation item among
> them.
> In this regard, our request to you that, if you have any kinds of old or
> used Braille, Print, Large Print, Moon-Type Book, Magazine, Journal,
> Religious Books and other Educational Materials, Please donate us.
> We are very interested to received those kinds of Books:
> 1. Holly Bible ( Old or New Transcript ) 2. Primary and High School Books.
> 3. College and University Books. 4. Magazine, Journal and newspaper. 5.
> Novel and History Books for Children and Adult. 6. Dictionary and others
> Books
> If you are not able to help us, Please refer other people or Organization,
> as they may be able to help us.
> We wish that you would help us in this matter. We apologies, if we disturb
> you
> We are very fervency looking for your kind response.
> Yours Faithfully-
> Shaleha Begum (Maya)
> Executive Director
> All Book Corporation
> Please don't write above the Packet, Books or materials Price, If necessary
> to write the price, Please write $ 00.1, and this is only for our custom
> fees.
> [Sample of a packet label]
> ===============================================================
>                                                             FREE MATTER
> FOR THE BLIND
> From,
> Name                         : ?????????..
> Organization Name: ???????????????
> Address                     : ?????????????????
> 
> To,
> Shaleha Begum (Maya)
> Executive Director
> All Book Corporation
> 12/E, 7/2, Mirpur, Pallabi, Dhaka ? 1216,
> Bangladesh.
>                                                            [DONATION FOR
> THE BLIND]
> _______________________________________________
> blindkid mailing list
> blindkid at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindkid_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindkid:
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From missheather at comcast.net  Sat Oct  3 06:43:02 2015
From: missheather at comcast.net (Heather Field)
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2015 01:43:02 -0500
Subject: [blindkid] request for Braille books
In-Reply-To: <F7EB5F09-C938-448F-8672-CCBDD7B8F5E2@gmail.com>
References: <CACsEhVLUHfqd-6Z049C7Fbpr-2kbjAtYye2t+3VzAGGMH155BA@mail.gmail.com>
	<F7EB5F09-C938-448F-8672-CCBDD7B8F5E2@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <316ADD01C3694291807E53D4EEC44DF9@HFofficePC>

Hello Traci,
Many countries have a reciprocal agreement by which braille reading and 
writing  and audio reading equipment can ship free matter. I'm not sure 
where you can look up participating countries but I know there's a lot of 
them. Perhaps the ubiquitous Google search would be the place to start. I 
certainly ship braille books to Uganda and to India and Australia free 
matter.
Best,
Heather

-----Original Message----- 
From: Traci W via blindkid
Sent: Friday, October 02, 2015 3:08 PM
To: Blind Kid Mailing List,(for parents of blind children)
Cc: Traci W
Subject: Re: [blindkid] request for Braille books

Do you have experience that we can ship "free matter for the blind" 
overseas?

I have a box of books just sitting!

Traci


Sent from my iPhone please pardon bad spelling!!

> On Oct 2, 2015, at 4:04 PM, Carol Castellano via blindkid 
> <blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> We have received the following request for books.
>
> Carol
>
> Carol Castellano
> Parents of Blind Children-NJ
> National Organization of Parents of Blind Children
> 973-377-0976
> carol_castellano at verizon.net
> www.blindchildren.org
> www.nopbc.org
>
> Subject :- Pray for the donation of used or old any kinds of Braille,
> Print, Large Print and Moon Type Books, Religious Books and Educational
> materials.
>
> Dear Sir / Madam,
> With due respect, with honor to inform you that, All Book Corporation is a
> Charity Helping Organization in Bangladesh, We  provide our  service for
> educational support to both Student and  Educated  Blind, Deaf Blind,
> partially sighted and other disabled people free of cost by your kind
> donation.
> Our country is very poor. When the General Education for mass people is 
> not
> easy, there are blind and disabled education it quite impossible. Most of
> the Blind, Deaf Blind, Partially Sighted, and other Disabled people are
> poor. They doesn?t have the ability to buy Braille, Print or Large Print
> books or other materials In our Country are the entire good, advance,
> modern items are not found. Some Blind and other Disabled Children and
> their parents don?t have the idea of this education or don?t have interest
> in it.
> We are trying our best to educate those Blind and other Disabled people.
> Believe me we succeed a lot to educate those people
> You know our organization is a charity, we run by donation. we cannot
> afford to buy books and other Materials to them, we are trying our best to
> educate them by your donation. We distribute all the donation item among
> them.
> In this regard, our request to you that, if you have any kinds of old or
> used Braille, Print, Large Print, Moon-Type Book, Magazine, Journal,
> Religious Books and other Educational Materials, Please donate us.
> We are very interested to received those kinds of Books:
> 1. Holly Bible ( Old or New Transcript ) 2. Primary and High School Books.
> 3. College and University Books. 4. Magazine, Journal and newspaper. 5.
> Novel and History Books for Children and Adult. 6. Dictionary and others
> Books
> If you are not able to help us, Please refer other people or Organization,
> as they may be able to help us.
> We wish that you would help us in this matter. We apologies, if we disturb
> you
> We are very fervency looking for your kind response.
> Yours Faithfully-
> Shaleha Begum (Maya)
> Executive Director
> All Book Corporation
> Please don't write above the Packet, Books or materials Price, If 
> necessary
> to write the price, Please write $ 00.1, and this is only for our custom
> fees.
> [Sample of a packet label]
> ===============================================================
>                                                             FREE MATTER
> FOR THE BLIND
> From,
> Name                         : ?????????..
> Organization Name: ???????????????
> Address                     : ?????????????????
>
> To,
> Shaleha Begum (Maya)
> Executive Director
> All Book Corporation
> 12/E, 7/2, Mirpur, Pallabi, Dhaka ? 1216,
> Bangladesh.
>                                                            [DONATION FOR
> THE BLIND]
> _______________________________________________
> blindkid mailing list
> blindkid at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindkid_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
> blindkid:
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From comicsempower at gmail.com  Tue Oct  6 12:55:07 2015
From: comicsempower at gmail.com (Comics Empower)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2015 14:55:07 +0200
Subject: [blindkid] Announcing: A Competition for Blind or Visually Impaired
	Comic Book Writers!
Message-ID: <CAK-mstcxbPRq4THXqG4O3FGXzhdQEg6K70JqqL2nGRspGuk-Fw@mail.gmail.com>

Comics Empower, the comic book store for the blind and the visually
impaired, is proud to announce that we are looking for the next great comic
book writers in the blind and visually impaired community! And we?re
starting a competition to do it!

After all, now that you can listen to comics, there?s no reason you can?t
write comics!

The top 3 winners will have their comics published by Comics Empower!

Check out the rules here: http://comicsempower.com/writing_competition



Do you know anyone who would be interested in participating? Please share
this email!


From thunderwalker321 at gmail.com  Sun Oct 11 15:39:29 2015
From: thunderwalker321 at gmail.com (Jody Ianuzzi)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 11:39:29 -0400
Subject: [blindkid] Safety glasses
Message-ID: <678EF7DD-627E-4BD5-A0F7-C884C103C564@gmail.com>

Hi all,

I recently read a book on BARD on the biographies of 400 blind people. It was very interesting but one of the things that stood out in my mind with the number of people who lost the sight in one eye due to an accident and then many years later lost sight in the other eye due to another accident. It occurred to me that safety glasses are such a good idea even for a totally blind child because they prevent any accidents and injuries. I and very light sensitive  so I were tinted glasses all of the time that also act as safety glasses.  Safety glasses are especially helpful to a low vision child because they will not see a branch or other possible injuries coming towards their eyes. 



JODY ?
thunderwalker321 at gmail.com

"There's no point in being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes."  DOCTOR WHO (Tom Baker)



From hn.nopbc at gmail.com  Sun Oct 11 17:07:00 2015
From: hn.nopbc at gmail.com (Himanshu Neema)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 12:07:00 -0500
Subject: [blindkid] Safety glasses
In-Reply-To: <678EF7DD-627E-4BD5-A0F7-C884C103C564@gmail.com>
References: <678EF7DD-627E-4BD5-A0F7-C884C103C564@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1F366C23-A426-4BFE-B59D-7E37E37A66EE@gmail.com>

Dear Jody,

This book should be a very useful read. Could you please also share the book title and author?

Thanks,
Himanshu


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 11, 2015, at 10:39 AM, Jody Ianuzzi via blindkid <blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I recently read a book on BARD on the biographies of 400 blind people. It was very interesting but one of the things that stood out in my mind with the number of people who lost the sight in one eye due to an accident and then many years later lost sight in the other eye due to another accident. It occurred to me that safety glasses are such a good idea even for a totally blind child because they prevent any accidents and injuries. I and very light sensitive  so I were tinted glasses all of the time that also act as safety glasses.  Safety glasses are especially helpful to a low vision child because they will not see a branch or other possible injuries coming towards their eyes. 
> 
> 
> 
> JODY ?
> thunderwalker321 at gmail.com
> 
> "There's no point in being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes."  DOCTOR WHO (Tom Baker)
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From thunderwalker321 at gmail.com  Sun Oct 11 17:20:36 2015
From: thunderwalker321 at gmail.com (Jody Ianuzzi)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 13:20:36 -0400
Subject: [blindkid] Safety glasses
In-Reply-To: <1F366C23-A426-4BFE-B59D-7E37E37A66EE@gmail.com>
References: <678EF7DD-627E-4BD5-A0F7-C884C103C564@gmail.com>
	<1F366C23-A426-4BFE-B59D-7E37E37A66EE@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DA61BE71-3942-4218-9170-2B9D69FBF33D@gmail.com>

I have deleted it from my bookshelf but I will go see if I can find it.

It seems to me I did a keyword search of blind to find it 

JODY ?
thunderwalker321 at gmail.com

"There's no point in being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes."  DOCTOR WHO (Tom Baker)



> On Oct 11, 2015, at 1:07 PM, Himanshu Neema via blindkid <blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Dear Jody,
> 
> This book should be a very useful read. Could you please also share the book title and author?
> 
> Thanks,
> Himanshu
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 11, 2015, at 10:39 AM, Jody Ianuzzi via blindkid <blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I recently read a book on BARD on the biographies of 400 blind people. It was very interesting but one of the things that stood out in my mind with the number of people who lost the sight in one eye due to an accident and then many years later lost sight in the other eye due to another accident. It occurred to me that safety glasses are such a good idea even for a totally blind child because they prevent any accidents and injuries. I and very light sensitive  so I were tinted glasses all of the time that also act as safety glasses.  Safety glasses are especially helpful to a low vision child because they will not see a branch or other possible injuries coming towards their eyes. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> JODY ?
>> thunderwalker321 at gmail.com
>> 
>> "There's no point in being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes."  DOCTOR WHO (Tom Baker)
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> blindkid mailing list
>> blindkid at nfbnet.org
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> 
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From thunderwalker321 at gmail.com  Sun Oct 11 17:39:51 2015
From: thunderwalker321 at gmail.com (Jody Ianuzzi)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 13:39:51 -0400
Subject: [blindkid] Safety glasses
In-Reply-To: <1F366C23-A426-4BFE-B59D-7E37E37A66EE@gmail.com>
References: <678EF7DD-627E-4BD5-A0F7-C884C103C564@gmail.com>
	<1F366C23-A426-4BFE-B59D-7E37E37A66EE@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5433CD4F-0F65-44E0-A8D7-C1DA6148BD7D@gmail.com>

I just did a quick search and I think the book is actually titled biography of the blind.

Another excellent book is blind justice the story of Jacoby's Tenbroeck. But my favorite that I read recently is almost like a song the biography of Ronnie Milsap. I also recommend the biography of Jacob Vallotton the blind doctor from the 1800s

JODY ?
thunderwalker321 at gmail.com

"There's no point in being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes."  DOCTOR WHO (Tom Baker)



> On Oct 11, 2015, at 1:07 PM, Himanshu Neema via blindkid <blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Dear Jody,
> 
> This book should be a very useful read. Could you please also share the book title and author?
> 
> Thanks,
> Himanshu
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 11, 2015, at 10:39 AM, Jody Ianuzzi via blindkid <blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I recently read a book on BARD on the biographies of 400 blind people. It was very interesting but one of the things that stood out in my mind with the number of people who lost the sight in one eye due to an accident and then many years later lost sight in the other eye due to another accident. It occurred to me that safety glasses are such a good idea even for a totally blind child because they prevent any accidents and injuries. I and very light sensitive  so I were tinted glasses all of the time that also act as safety glasses.  Safety glasses are especially helpful to a low vision child because they will not see a branch or other possible injuries coming towards their eyes. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> JODY ?
>> thunderwalker321 at gmail.com
>> 
>> "There's no point in being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes."  DOCTOR WHO (Tom Baker)
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> blindkid mailing list
>> blindkid at nfbnet.org
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> 
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From thunderwalker321 at gmail.com  Sun Oct 11 17:43:51 2015
From: thunderwalker321 at gmail.com (Jody Ianuzzi)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 13:43:51 -0400
Subject: [blindkid] Books
Message-ID: <D97D6720-4EAC-450A-93B6-8DB1395FD932@gmail.com>

Biography of the blind was written by James Wilson and Kenneth Stuckey. 

JODY ?
thunderwalker321 at gmail.com

"There's no point in being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes."  DOCTOR WHO (Tom Baker)



From hn.nopbc at gmail.com  Sun Oct 11 21:00:58 2015
From: hn.nopbc at gmail.com (Himanshu Neema)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 16:00:58 -0500
Subject: [blindkid] Books
In-Reply-To: <D97D6720-4EAC-450A-93B6-8DB1395FD932@gmail.com>
References: <D97D6720-4EAC-450A-93B6-8DB1395FD932@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E4AB7368-D105-4F9E-B638-814799BDAD53@gmail.com>

Dear Jody,

Thanks so much for providing the details of the book and for providing other excellent recommendations. I really appreciate it.

Best regards,
Himanshu


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 11, 2015, at 12:43 PM, Jody Ianuzzi via blindkid <blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Biography of the blind was written by James Wilson and Kenneth Stuckey. 
> 
> JODY ?
> thunderwalker321 at gmail.com
> 
> "There's no point in being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes."  DOCTOR WHO (Tom Baker)
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From aachase1 at gmail.com  Sun Oct 11 21:41:47 2015
From: aachase1 at gmail.com (Alan Chase)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 17:41:47 -0400
Subject: [blindkid] Envisioning Youth Empowerment Retreat 2016
Message-ID: <CAHBNFhpM22UdfYk6OUMJCx=UNN9LXT4o-pte2F5nZzux3WLjdA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

Be the first in line to apply for a staff position at the 2016 EYE
Retreat.  The 2016 EYE Retreat will be Friday, July 22 to Saturday,
July 30 in Raleigh, NC.  The EYE Retreat is now in its 8th year and
provides college preparation and career readiness training for youth with
visual impairments.  In 2015, we served 51 individuals from 2 countries and
8 states.  You can find out more about us at www.eyeretreat.org.
Participant applications for students are not yet available, but we
generally have a wait list by March of each year.

For our staff, there is no cost for you to attend and this equals about a
$225.00 value.  Who can spend a week somewhere for that bargain of a price?
 As usual, we will provide all food, housing, and transportation during
the week.  We are sorry that other compensation isn't available and we can
not cover your transportation to and from Raleigh.  Interviews will occur
in the month of December.  Here is a link to the staff application.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1M9P3dKm-F0xQ4RT9jlKIwCSeQbcfIWBjOfeeHtGe4Us/viewform

Below you will find descriptions of the approved positions for 2016.
We are anticipating increased enrollments for 2016 and are planning
for 60 participants this year.

1.  College Coordinator (1 position) is responsible for group leaders
within their track, class observations, class lesson planning, and
participant supervision.  This person is on duty from 7am to 6pm and
shares in an evening rotation for supervision.

2.  Career Coordinator (1 position) is responsible for group leaders
within their track, securing work site job experiences, class lesson
planning, and participant supervision.  This person is on duty from
7am to 6pm and shares in an evening rotation for supervision.

3.  Registration, Recreation and Transportation Coordinator (1
position) is responsible for arranging transportation to and from
sites, arranging transportation for recreational activities,
collecting and reviewing registration documents, completing check in
and check out with participants, and arranging and supervising
recreation activities.  This person is on duty during all registration
times, during all check outs, and each evening during the week.

4.  Dorm Coordinators (3 positions) are responsible for overnight
supervision of participants, ensuring cleanness of dorms, assisting
with serving of breakfast, serving as point of contact during
overnight hours, and ensuring participants adhere to the schedule.

5.  Senior Group Leaders (2 positions) are responsible for assisting
track coordinators with supporting group leaders, serving as track
leader in the absence of the track coordinator, teaching of assigned
classes, supervising participants, serving as a mentor, and assisting
with meal duties.  These individuals are on duty from 7am to 6pm.
Each group would have about 4 participants.

6.  Group Leaders (8 positions) are responsible for teaching of
assigned classes, supervising participants, serving as a mentor, and
assisting with meal duties.  These individuals are on duty from 7am to
6pm.  Each group would have about 4 participants.

Be sure to like us on Facebook at www.facebook.com/eyeretreat and follow us
on Twitter at www.twitter.com/eyeretreat.


From thunderwalker321 at gmail.com  Mon Oct 12 01:49:00 2015
From: thunderwalker321 at gmail.com (Jody Ianuzzi)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 21:49:00 -0400
Subject: [blindkid] Books
In-Reply-To: <E4AB7368-D105-4F9E-B638-814799BDAD53@gmail.com>
References: <D97D6720-4EAC-450A-93B6-8DB1395FD932@gmail.com>
	<E4AB7368-D105-4F9E-B638-814799BDAD53@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B6F30361-EC96-4B56-BCBA-07407C04BF6D@gmail.com>

I can think of two more excellent books, the first is TOUCH THE TOP OF THE WORLD by Erik Weihenmeyer. He is the blind man who climbed Mount Everest into thousand one.  

The second book is WHO LOST by Dale Sheldon. 

OK, I thought of the third, the book is titled GUIDE DOGS AND GUNS by Corey McWilliams Who is a marksman scuba diver skydiver and much more.

JODY ?
thunderwalker321 at gmail.com

"There's no point in being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes."  DOCTOR WHO (Tom Baker)



> On Oct 11, 2015, at 5:00 PM, Himanshu Neema via blindkid <blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Dear Jody,
> 
> Thanks so much for providing the details of the book and for providing other excellent recommendations. I really appreciate it.
> 
> Best regards,
> Himanshu
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 11, 2015, at 12:43 PM, Jody Ianuzzi via blindkid <blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Biography of the blind was written by James Wilson and Kenneth Stuckey. 
>> 
>> JODY ?
>> thunderwalker321 at gmail.com
>> 
>> "There's no point in being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes."  DOCTOR WHO (Tom Baker)
>> 
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From lucas.bonnie at gmail.com  Tue Oct 13 04:42:38 2015
From: lucas.bonnie at gmail.com (Bonnie Lucas)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 20:42:38 -0800
Subject: [blindkid] Books
Message-ID: <005201d10571$97869d00$c693d700$@gmail.com>

Two more books are "Beyond the Bear," by Dan Bigley. The story of Dan's
mauling by a bear in Alaska. He has gone on to receive an MSW with a 4.0 GPA
and is now the director of all clinical services at the largest mental
health center in Alaska. I know him and heard him speak just last week. The
other is Thunder dog by Michael Hinkson. Most have heard of this book, I
think. 

Bonnie

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From deniserob at gmail.com  Fri Oct 16 17:28:52 2015
From: deniserob at gmail.com (Dr. Denise M Robinson)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 13:28:52 -0400
Subject: [blindkid] Technology that gives success to anything you need
Message-ID: <CAAxsd_5FjWv-tqJZWOJmWGisZWP9e+QX8kn=QHewvYY4_paq7A@mail.gmail.com>

A glimpse of some technology that gives access to the world around us



Yes, we love the iPad, iPhone and iOS tools, but are you learning the
primary tool that will allow you to go onto college and get you a job!!!
Find out what the rest of the world is using so you are prepared to go
forth and conquer. Also answer the questions for yourself: Can you operate
at the speed of the rest of society with the tool you are using presently?
Are you using a supplementary tool to do the work or a primary tool like
the PC?

2015 of What Technology does a blind person need to be successful
<http://www.yourtechvision.com/content/2015-what-technology-does-blind-person-need-be-successful>



Can you or your students complete work as fast as this fourth grader can
using Word and Excel to do math, then email the work to the teacher?: Described
video on how to complete an excel graph and copy into Word document with
talking software <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kA7CeHs1f4>



Small Portable scanner with talking software OCR for blind access
<http://www.yourtechvision.com/content/small-portable-scanner-talking-software-ocr-blind-access>--ASAP
access to anything



Geometry talking software Low vision incredible PDF/image trick -type on
top of the image
<http://www.yourtechvision.com/content/geometry-talking-software-low-vision-incredible-pdfimage-trick-type-top-image>



If you are wondering about whether you should update to Windows 10--here is
a demo of a thumbs up and the WOW of this system: OS10 Accessibility and
Incredible Power
<http://www.yourtechvision.com/content/os10-accessibility-and-incredible-power>



My students learn a minimum of 2 screen reader programs to access the
world, but sometimes you need more based on where you work or go to school:
Watch: ChromeVox with Chrome for blind Access
<http://www.yourtechvision.com/content/chromevox-chrome-blind-access>



Another advanced on Braille display readers: 20 cell Braille Display for
$500.00 coming soon
<http://www.yourtechvision.com/content/20-cell-braille-display-50000-coming-soon>



Are you really wanting to use your iPad for .brf (braille) files and edit
in them? Wait no more: Visual Brailler -brf editor for files on iPad
<http://www.yourtechvision.com/content/visual-brailler-brf-editor-files-ipad>



A great trick with the iPad but the iPhone works also to SEE inside a
microscope--Low Vision tricks increase. Low Vision-See microscope through
an iPad and enlarge figure
<http://www.yourtechvision.com/content/low-vision-see-microscope-through-ipad-and-enlarge-figure>
Side note, you can also do this with a PC and small HD camera to project on
an even large monitor.

Happy Learning
-- 
*Dr Denise*

Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D.
CEO, TechVision, LLC
Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual
instruction for schools
Also Private training to your needs
423-573-6413

Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office
products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with
keystrokes: www.yourtechvision.com


From info at imerciv.com  Fri Oct 23 14:28:23 2015
From: info at imerciv.com (iMerciv)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 10:28:23 -0400
Subject: [blindkid] The BuzzClip: Wearable Technology for the Blind
Message-ID: <0B857C68-9CBB-4F5A-8DA6-2ACC49A789CA@imerciv.com>

Dear Readers,
 

 
We wanted to share with some information with you about a new revolutionary product that could really change the lives of people living with vision loss all over the world. The BuzzClip is currently live on Indiegogo and while our campaign is promoting this cool new technology, it also has a big social cause attached to it. For more information please check out our campaign page: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-buzzclip-wearable-ultrasound-for-the-blind/x/11673979#/ <https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-buzzclip-wearable-ultrasound-for-the-blind/x/11673979#/>
 
Our device has been street tested here in Toronto, as well as the U.S and India by hundreds of visually impaired individuals.
We have working units at many organizations within Toronto that have been testing our device with their clients and the response thus far has been amazing. You can watch the BuzzClip in action or hear what some of our users have to say about it on our Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSnwSwEYIMD-bs8xOZM4tIQ <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSnwSwEYIMD-bs8xOZM4tIQ>
 
It would be great if you could share this information with anyone who would benefit from using a device like this or anyone who may want to order one for family and friends. With the support of the public, we can build a better product and can have them in the hands of people that truly need them as early as the spring of 2016.
 
Please contact us if you have any questions and we really look forward to hearing from you.
Thank You & Best Regards,

The iMerciv Team

From deniserob at gmail.com  Fri Oct 23 15:14:42 2015
From: deniserob at gmail.com (Dr. Denise M Robinson)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 11:14:42 -0400
Subject: [blindkid] Technology help for students and teachers--accessing
	education
Message-ID: <CAAxsd_7VC_yQVqP5HmVjLw7KeczNmjMMMQE9WB9+=FvPps518w@mail.gmail.com>

Many of my students are using a Common Core Civics book and other secured
books that you can only listen. Many emails on this issue for help.
Students need to listen but also they need to jump to, copy and paste info
and answer questions. This is how you make inaccessible secured documents
accessible: Access secured inaccessible PDF and other image files
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8V842KG1Tk>



The time has come and the demand is great from TVIs and blind people alike
asking for ongoing classes, whether to learn themselves or follow along
with a student. These courses will allow access to what they or you are
learning in school right now and how to go about accessing education.
Assistive
Technology Classes --Coming Soon to students and teachers
<http://www.yourtechvision.com/content/assistive-technology-classes-coming-soon-students-and-teachers>



A great site for Nemeth Worksheets
<http://www.yourtechvision.com/content/nemeth-worksheets> --download and
emboss out what you need for your students.



Need help--have an AT Teacher on your shoulder for ASAP assistance:
Demonstration
of how to use Skype with Jaws scripts to communicate with students
<http://www.yourtechvision.com/content/demonstration-how-use-skype-jaws-scripts-communicate-students>



Senior Projects are always a great road to travel. I love watching students
take complete control over a computer--just watch those fingers fly: Blind
Student Demonstrates PowerPoint for Senior Project
<http://www.yourtechvision.com/content/blind-student-demonstrates-powerpoint-senior-project>



Another lesson on making inaccessible print accessible with a tiny little
scanner that can go anywhere and do just about anything: Small Portable
scanner with talking software OCR for blind access
<http://www.yourtechvision.com/content/small-portable-scanner-talking-software-ocr-blind-access>

Keep the emails coming--we are so happy to help in any  issue

Have a great weekend
-- 
*Dr Denise*

Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D.
CEO, TechVision, LLC
Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual
instruction for schools
Also Private training to your needs
423-573-6413

Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office
products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with
keystrokes: www.yourtechvision.com


From AllisonH at benetech.org  Fri Oct 23 16:55:35 2015
From: AllisonH at benetech.org (Allison Hilliker)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 16:55:35 +0000
Subject: [blindkid] The BuzzClip: Wearable Technology for the Blind
In-Reply-To: <0B857C68-9CBB-4F5A-8DA6-2ACC49A789CA@imerciv.com>
References: <0B857C68-9CBB-4F5A-8DA6-2ACC49A789CA@imerciv.com>
Message-ID: <CY1PR06MB180200B771E3C2C41DDB1FB6AA260@CY1PR06MB1802.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Interesting. Is it meant to be used in place of or along with a cane?

Also, what does it look like? I didn't see a description on the Indiegogo page. I notice that this info is often missing from descriptions of any AT marketed to blind people, even though we care about what things look like. Especially things that are meant to be worn.

Best,
Allison


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To: blindkid at nfbnet.org
Cc: iMerciv
Subject: [blindkid] The BuzzClip: Wearable Technology for the Blind

Dear Readers,
 

 
We wanted to share with some information with you about a new revolutionary product that could really change the lives of people living with vision loss all over the world. The BuzzClip is currently live on Indiegogo and while our campaign is promoting this cool new technology, it also has a big social cause attached to it. For more information please check out our campaign page: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-buzzclip-wearable-ultrasound-for-the-blind/x/11673979#/ <https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-buzzclip-wearable-ultrasound-for-the-blind/x/11673979#/>
 
Our device has been street tested here in Toronto, as well as the U.S and India by hundreds of visually impaired individuals.
We have working units at many organizations within Toronto that have been testing our device with their clients and the response thus far has been amazing. You can watch the BuzzClip in action or hear what some of our users have to say about it on our Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSnwSwEYIMD-bs8xOZM4tIQ <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSnwSwEYIMD-bs8xOZM4tIQ>
 
It would be great if you could share this information with anyone who would benefit from using a device like this or anyone who may want to order one for family and friends. With the support of the public, we can build a better product and can have them in the hands of people that truly need them as early as the spring of 2016.
 
Please contact us if you have any questions and we really look forward to hearing from you.
Thank You & Best Regards,

The iMerciv Team
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From traci.mwd at gmail.com  Fri Oct 23 17:21:34 2015
From: traci.mwd at gmail.com (Traci Wilkerson)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 13:21:34 -0400
Subject: [blindkid] The BuzzClip: Wearable Technology for the Blind
In-Reply-To: <CY1PR06MB180200B771E3C2C41DDB1FB6AA260@CY1PR06MB1802.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <0B857C68-9CBB-4F5A-8DA6-2ACC49A789CA@imerciv.com>
	<CY1PR06MB180200B771E3C2C41DDB1FB6AA260@CY1PR06MB1802.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <CACWKtUdqE-Wc=F49oypeuh0ZFqCRSwudWP6h150VBXcgT5kfmA@mail.gmail.com>

Allison,

It looks almost like a garage door opener, but about less than 1/2 the size
maybe, maybe 1/2 the size.  If that gives you an idea of size.  I has the
same kind of clip on the back that our garage door opener has, the metal
clip that allows it to be slid onto something.

I don't think this replaces a cane, but I see where it would help those
kids in underdeveloped countries (through donations) who don't have access
to canes.  I would not let my kids use this and NO cane.  Nope.  :)

Traci


On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Allison Hilliker via blindkid <
blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Interesting. Is it meant to be used in place of or along with a cane?
>
> Also, what does it look like? I didn't see a description on the Indiegogo
> page. I notice that this info is often missing from descriptions of any AT
> marketed to blind people, even though we care about what things look like.
> Especially things that are meant to be worn.
>
> Best,
> Allison
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindkid [mailto:blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of iMerciv
> via blindkid
> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 7:28 AM
> To: blindkid at nfbnet.org
> Cc: iMerciv
> Subject: [blindkid] The BuzzClip: Wearable Technology for the Blind
>
> Dear Readers,
>
>
>
> We wanted to share with some information with you about a new
> revolutionary product that could really change the lives of people living
> with vision loss all over the world. The BuzzClip is currently live on
> Indiegogo and while our campaign is promoting this cool new technology, it
> also has a big social cause attached to it. For more information please
> check out our campaign page:
> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-buzzclip-wearable-ultrasound-for-the-blind/x/11673979#/
> <
> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-buzzclip-wearable-ultrasound-for-the-blind/x/11673979#/
> >
>
> Our device has been street tested here in Toronto, as well as the U.S and
> India by hundreds of visually impaired individuals.
> We have working units at many organizations within Toronto that have been
> testing our device with their clients and the response thus far has been
> amazing. You can watch the BuzzClip in action or hear what some of our
> users have to say about it on our Youtube Channel:
> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSnwSwEYIMD-bs8xOZM4tIQ <
> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSnwSwEYIMD-bs8xOZM4tIQ>
>
> It would be great if you could share this information with anyone who
> would benefit from using a device like this or anyone who may want to order
> one for family and friends. With the support of the public, we can build a
> better product and can have them in the hands of people that truly need
> them as early as the spring of 2016.
>
> Please contact us if you have any questions and we really look forward to
> hearing from you.
> Thank You & Best Regards,
>
> The iMerciv Team
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-- 
Traci Wilkerson
Cell ? 919-971-6526


From marianne at denningweb.com  Fri Oct 23 17:29:55 2015
From: marianne at denningweb.com (Marianne Denning)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 13:29:55 -0400
Subject: [blindkid] The BuzzClip: Wearable Technology for the Blind
In-Reply-To: <CY1PR06MB180200B771E3C2C41DDB1FB6AA260@CY1PR06MB1802.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <0B857C68-9CBB-4F5A-8DA6-2ACC49A789CA@imerciv.com>
	<CY1PR06MB180200B771E3C2C41DDB1FB6AA260@CY1PR06MB1802.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <CANZu-Jivr1U-G_v+8SpPkhj1gJiPAn9h=NmQvHuynFDVEv2LDg@mail.gmail.com>

The way I read it is it can be used either way.  If you use a cane then it
will provide information about objects that may be above your waist and if
you have some ision and are embarrassed to use a cane then it will detect
objects that may be in your path.  My thought is that if your vision is bad
enough that you need this device then you should be using a cane or dog.

On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Allison Hilliker via blindkid <
blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Interesting. Is it meant to be used in place of or along with a cane?
>
> Also, what does it look like? I didn't see a description on the Indiegogo
> page. I notice that this info is often missing from descriptions of any AT
> marketed to blind people, even though we care about what things look like.
> Especially things that are meant to be worn.
>
> Best,
> Allison
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindkid [mailto:blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of iMerciv
> via blindkid
> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 7:28 AM
> To: blindkid at nfbnet.org
> Cc: iMerciv
> Subject: [blindkid] The BuzzClip: Wearable Technology for the Blind
>
> Dear Readers,
>
>
>
> We wanted to share with some information with you about a new
> revolutionary product that could really change the lives of people living
> with vision loss all over the world. The BuzzClip is currently live on
> Indiegogo and while our campaign is promoting this cool new technology, it
> also has a big social cause attached to it. For more information please
> check out our campaign page:
> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-buzzclip-wearable-ultrasound-for-the-blind/x/11673979#/
> <
> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-buzzclip-wearable-ultrasound-for-the-blind/x/11673979#/
> >
>
> Our device has been street tested here in Toronto, as well as the U.S and
> India by hundreds of visually impaired individuals.
> We have working units at many organizations within Toronto that have been
> testing our device with their clients and the response thus far has been
> amazing. You can watch the BuzzClip in action or hear what some of our
> users have to say about it on our Youtube Channel:
> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSnwSwEYIMD-bs8xOZM4tIQ <
> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSnwSwEYIMD-bs8xOZM4tIQ>
>
> It would be great if you could share this information with anyone who
> would benefit from using a device like this or anyone who may want to order
> one for family and friends. With the support of the public, we can build a
> better product and can have them in the hands of people that truly need
> them as early as the spring of 2016.
>
> Please contact us if you have any questions and we really look forward to
> hearing from you.
> Thank You & Best Regards,
>
> The iMerciv Team
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From poetlori8 at msn.com  Fri Oct 23 17:42:58 2015
From: poetlori8 at msn.com (Barbara HAMMEL)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 12:42:58 -0500
Subject: [blindkid] The BuzzClip: Wearable Technology for the Blind
In-Reply-To: <0B857C68-9CBB-4F5A-8DA6-2ACC49A789CA@imerciv.com>
References: <0B857C68-9CBB-4F5A-8DA6-2ACC49A789CA@imerciv.com>
Message-ID: <SNT407-EAS4230C543B1D3AC1F9423095EB260@phx.gbl>

You know, I may be missing the mark by a long shot here, but it seems to me that, while all this technology is cool, nothing is so useful or communicates so well with the sighted public that we are blind, as the long white cane. While these technologies are fighting so far to overcome some negative stigma of blindness that they have attached to the long white cane, they are not as effective and make a blind person look more buffoon-like thus enhancing that negative stereotype they were trying to avoid. And, how long will it be before the negative connotation they have pinned on the long white cane will be associated with their new invention? And the cycle continues. Why not just stick with the "cheap" long white cane and fight down that stereotype until the sighted public sees it as just another tool certain people use like a carpenter uses a hammer or an artist uses a paintbrush ...
Barbara

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 23, 2015, at 09:30, iMerciv via blindkid <blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Dear Readers,
> 
> 
> 
> We wanted to share with some information with you about a new revolutionary product that could really change the lives of people living with vision loss all over the world. The BuzzClip is currently live on Indiegogo and while our campaign is promoting this cool new technology, it also has a big social cause attached to it. For more information please check out our campaign page: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-buzzclip-wearable-ultrasound-for-the-blind/x/11673979#/ <https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-buzzclip-wearable-ultrasound-for-the-blind/x/11673979#/>
> 
> Our device has been street tested here in Toronto, as well as the U.S and India by hundreds of visually impaired individuals.
> We have working units at many organizations within Toronto that have been testing our device with their clients and the response thus far has been amazing. You can watch the BuzzClip in action or hear what some of our users have to say about it on our Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSnwSwEYIMD-bs8xOZM4tIQ <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSnwSwEYIMD-bs8xOZM4tIQ>
> 
> It would be great if you could share this information with anyone who would benefit from using a device like this or anyone who may want to order one for family and friends. With the support of the public, we can build a better product and can have them in the hands of people that truly need them as early as the spring of 2016.
> 
> Please contact us if you have any questions and we really look forward to hearing from you.
> Thank You & Best Regards,
> 
> The iMerciv Team
> _______________________________________________
> blindkid mailing list
> blindkid at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindkid_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindkid:
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From traci.mwd at gmail.com  Fri Oct 23 17:56:12 2015
From: traci.mwd at gmail.com (Traci Wilkerson)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 13:56:12 -0400
Subject: [blindkid] The BuzzClip: Wearable Technology for the Blind
In-Reply-To: <SNT407-EAS4230C543B1D3AC1F9423095EB260@phx.gbl>
References: <0B857C68-9CBB-4F5A-8DA6-2ACC49A789CA@imerciv.com>
	<SNT407-EAS4230C543B1D3AC1F9423095EB260@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CACWKtUc=kgrj=Yig7Jbp9HqfcXaZi4eacE0wmm=fqreoqxLiOQ@mail.gmail.com>

I see this as a great tool for my kids.  They have trouble knowing when a
line moves forward in school or when they are ordering or paying for
something in a store, they won't have to touch the person in front of them
(which my son tends to do) and in stores where both of them tend to hit
empty clothes racks.  I think this is a great tool instead of using their
arm up as a barrier in front of their face and looking more weird.

I would never let my kids not use their canes, even with this device, but
to me its another tool in their toolbox!

Traci

On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Barbara HAMMEL via blindkid <
blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> You know, I may be missing the mark by a long shot here, but it seems to
> me that, while all this technology is cool, nothing is so useful or
> communicates so well with the sighted public that we are blind, as the long
> white cane. While these technologies are fighting so far to overcome some
> negative stigma of blindness that they have attached to the long white
> cane, they are not as effective and make a blind person look more
> buffoon-like thus enhancing that negative stereotype they were trying to
> avoid. And, how long will it be before the negative connotation they have
> pinned on the long white cane will be associated with their new invention?
> And the cycle continues. Why not just stick with the "cheap" long white
> cane and fight down that stereotype until the sighted public sees it as
> just another tool certain people use like a carpenter uses a hammer or an
> artist uses a paintbrush ...
> Barbara
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Oct 23, 2015, at 09:30, iMerciv via blindkid <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Readers,
> >
> >
> >
> > We wanted to share with some information with you about a new
> revolutionary product that could really change the lives of people living
> with vision loss all over the world. The BuzzClip is currently live on
> Indiegogo and while our campaign is promoting this cool new technology, it
> also has a big social cause attached to it. For more information please
> check out our campaign page:
> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-buzzclip-wearable-ultrasound-for-the-blind/x/11673979#/
> <
> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-buzzclip-wearable-ultrasound-for-the-blind/x/11673979#/
> >
> >
> > Our device has been street tested here in Toronto, as well as the U.S
> and India by hundreds of visually impaired individuals.
> > We have working units at many organizations within Toronto that have
> been testing our device with their clients and the response thus far has
> been amazing. You can watch the BuzzClip in action or hear what some of our
> users have to say about it on our Youtube Channel:
> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSnwSwEYIMD-bs8xOZM4tIQ <
> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSnwSwEYIMD-bs8xOZM4tIQ>
> >
> > It would be great if you could share this information with anyone who
> would benefit from using a device like this or anyone who may want to order
> one for family and friends. With the support of the public, we can build a
> better product and can have them in the hands of people that truly need
> them as early as the spring of 2016.
> >
> > Please contact us if you have any questions and we really look forward
> to hearing from you.
> > Thank You & Best Regards,
> >
> > The iMerciv Team
> > _______________________________________________
> > blindkid mailing list
> > blindkid at nfbnet.org
> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindkid_nfbnet.org
> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> blindkid:
> >
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindkid_nfbnet.org/poetlori8%40msn.com
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Cell ? 919-971-6526


From poetlori8 at msn.com  Fri Oct 23 19:36:12 2015
From: poetlori8 at msn.com (Barbara HAMMEL)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 14:36:12 -0500
Subject: [blindkid] The BuzzClip: Wearable Technology for the Blind
In-Reply-To: <CACWKtUc=kgrj=Yig7Jbp9HqfcXaZi4eacE0wmm=fqreoqxLiOQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0B857C68-9CBB-4F5A-8DA6-2ACC49A789CA@imerciv.com>
	<SNT407-EAS4230C543B1D3AC1F9423095EB260@phx.gbl>
	<CACWKtUc=kgrj=Yig7Jbp9HqfcXaZi4eacE0wmm=fqreoqxLiOQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SNT407-EAS32181C5426EE3C1EDE438F8EB260@phx.gbl>

As an added tool to help with moving lines or overhanging tree branches or trucks at head level that one needs to put the hand up to find, this would be awesome. Sometimes your ears don't pick up the echoes of things that the sound of the cane might bounce off or, as in the line, you wouldn't be tapping it.
Barbara
 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 23, 2015, at 12:56, Traci Wilkerson <traci.mwd at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I see this as a great tool for my kids.  They have trouble knowing when a line moves forward in school or when they are ordering or paying for something in a store, they won't have to touch the person in front of them (which my son tends to do) and in stores where both of them tend to hit empty clothes racks.  I think this is a great tool instead of using their arm up as a barrier in front of their face and looking more weird.
> 
> I would never let my kids not use their canes, even with this device, but to me its another tool in their toolbox!
> 
> Traci
> 
>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Barbara HAMMEL via blindkid <blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> You know, I may be missing the mark by a long shot here, but it seems to me that, while all this technology is cool, nothing is so useful or communicates so well with the sighted public that we are blind, as the long white cane. While these technologies are fighting so far to overcome some negative stigma of blindness that they have attached to the long white cane, they are not as effective and make a blind person look more buffoon-like thus enhancing that negative stereotype they were trying to avoid. And, how long will it be before the negative connotation they have pinned on the long white cane will be associated with their new invention? And the cycle continues. Why not just stick with the "cheap" long white cane and fight down that stereotype until the sighted public sees it as just another tool certain people use like a carpenter uses a hammer or an artist uses a paintbrush ...
>> Barbara
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Oct 23, 2015, at 09:30, iMerciv via blindkid <blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > Dear Readers,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > We wanted to share with some information with you about a new revolutionary product that could really change the lives of people living with vision loss all over the world. The BuzzClip is currently live on Indiegogo and while our campaign is promoting this cool new technology, it also has a big social cause attached to it. For more information please check out our campaign page: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-buzzclip-wearable-ultrasound-for-the-blind/x/11673979#/ <https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-buzzclip-wearable-ultrasound-for-the-blind/x/11673979#/>
>> >
>> > Our device has been street tested here in Toronto, as well as the U.S and India by hundreds of visually impaired individuals.
>> > We have working units at many organizations within Toronto that have been testing our device with their clients and the response thus far has been amazing. You can watch the BuzzClip in action or hear what some of our users have to say about it on our Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSnwSwEYIMD-bs8xOZM4tIQ <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSnwSwEYIMD-bs8xOZM4tIQ>
>> >
>> > It would be great if you could share this information with anyone who would benefit from using a device like this or anyone who may want to order one for family and friends. With the support of the public, we can build a better product and can have them in the hands of people that truly need them as early as the spring of 2016.
>> >
>> > Please contact us if you have any questions and we really look forward to hearing from you.
>> > Thank You & Best Regards,
>> >
>> > The iMerciv Team
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > blindkid mailing list
>> > blindkid at nfbnet.org
>> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindkid_nfbnet.org
>> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindkid:
>> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindkid_nfbnet.org/poetlori8%40msn.com
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> blindkid mailing list
>> blindkid at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindkid_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindkid:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindkid_nfbnet.org/traci.mwd%40gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Traci Wilkerson
> Cell ? 919-971-6526
> 
> 
> 

From info at imerciv.com  Fri Oct 23 21:01:36 2015
From: info at imerciv.com (bin liu)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 17:01:36 -0400
Subject: [blindkid] The BuzzClip: Wearable Technology for the Blind
In-Reply-To: <CY1PR06MB180200B771E3C2C41DDB1FB6AA260@CY1PR06MB1802.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>
References: <0B857C68-9CBB-4F5A-8DA6-2ACC49A789CA@imerciv.com>
	<CY1PR06MB180200B771E3C2C41DDB1FB6AA260@CY1PR06MB1802.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <562AA030.80609@imerciv.com>

Hi Alison,

It is meant to to be used along with the cane or guide dog if you are 
currently a cane or guide dog user. It helps detect things waist and 
above, things like low hanging branches, signs, open cabinet doors.

We put a lot of effort on the design of the Buzzclip aside from it's 
function. The Buzzclip is slightly larger than a lighter. The enclosure 
is made entirely of aluminum so that it is water resistant and durable 
and also very aesthetically pleasing. The devices consists of 3 main 
sections, a sensor arm that is circular and smaller than the size of an 
iPod nano in terms of area and just a little bit thicker. it is 
connected to the battery enclosure by a metallic spring clip that is 
similar to the ones on pocket knifes and multi-tools. The Battery pack 
is in the shape of a rectangle with rounded edges and is roughly the 
size of a USB drive. The micro-USB charging port is on the side of the 
battery pack. At the back of the sensor is the vibration motor arm with 
is elevated from the battery pack. The entire unit has a finish that is 
similar to the look and feel of the Apple TV remote. When it is worn, 
the only portion that will be exposed is the sensor arm.

The Buzzclip is not just another ultrasonic proximity detector. The fact 
that it is wearable and hands free makes it applicable in a lot more use 
cases. Some of our testers have been using it in line ups at coffee 
shops to determine when the line is moving forward. Some of them have 
been using it as a way finder in tight spaces by walking in the 
directions where the Buzzclip doesn't detect anything. Some have been 
using it as security by attaching it behind them, they would know 
someone is sneaking up on them if the Buzzclip detects something coming 
towards them and they don't hear anything. Some have found it useful as 
they would be able to tell if the person they are conversing with got up 
to get water and when they get back. It provides extra information on 
the surrounding passively and users are constantly finding new ways to 
use this extra information.

Best Regards
The iMerciv Team.

On 2015-10-23 12:55 PM, Allison Hilliker via blindkid wrote:
> Interesting. Is it meant to be used in place of or along with a cane?
>
> Also, what does it look like? I didn't see a description on the Indiegogo page. I notice that this info is often missing from descriptions of any AT marketed to blind people, even though we care about what things look like. Especially things that are meant to be worn.
>
> Best,
> Allison
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindkid [mailto:blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of iMerciv via blindkid
> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 7:28 AM
> To: blindkid at nfbnet.org
> Cc: iMerciv
> Subject: [blindkid] The BuzzClip: Wearable Technology for the Blind
>
> Dear Readers,
>   
>
>   
> We wanted to share with some information with you about a new revolutionary product that could really change the lives of people living with vision loss all over the world. The BuzzClip is currently live on Indiegogo and while our campaign is promoting this cool new technology, it also has a big social cause attached to it. For more information please check out our campaign page: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-buzzclip-wearable-ultrasound-for-the-blind/x/11673979#/ <https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-buzzclip-wearable-ultrasound-for-the-blind/x/11673979#/>
>   
> Our device has been street tested here in Toronto, as well as the U.S and India by hundreds of visually impaired individuals.
> We have working units at many organizations within Toronto that have been testing our device with their clients and the response thus far has been amazing. You can watch the BuzzClip in action or hear what some of our users have to say about it on our Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSnwSwEYIMD-bs8xOZM4tIQ <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSnwSwEYIMD-bs8xOZM4tIQ>
>   
> It would be great if you could share this information with anyone who would benefit from using a device like this or anyone who may want to order one for family and friends. With the support of the public, we can build a better product and can have them in the hands of people that truly need them as early as the spring of 2016.
>   
> Please contact us if you have any questions and we really look forward to hearing from you.
> Thank You & Best Regards,
>
> The iMerciv Team
> _______________________________________________
> blindkid mailing list
> blindkid at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindkid_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for blindkid:
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From info at imerciv.com  Fri Oct 23 21:21:28 2015
From: info at imerciv.com (bin liu)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 17:21:28 -0400
Subject: [blindkid] The BuzzClip: Wearable Technology for the Blind
In-Reply-To: <CANZu-Jivr1U-G_v+8SpPkhj1gJiPAn9h=NmQvHuynFDVEv2LDg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0B857C68-9CBB-4F5A-8DA6-2ACC49A789CA@imerciv.com>
	<CY1PR06MB180200B771E3C2C41DDB1FB6AA260@CY1PR06MB1802.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<CANZu-Jivr1U-G_v+8SpPkhj1gJiPAn9h=NmQvHuynFDVEv2LDg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <562AA4D8.90101@imerciv.com>

Hi Marianne,

For cane and guide dog users, we definitely recommend that they use the 
Buzzclip together with what they are currently using. The Buzzclip 
however does a lot more than just offering protection from obstacles 
waist and above. Since it is wearable and hands free it helps in a lot 
of situations. I Cced the mailing list when I replied to Allison just 
now please take a look at that to get a better understanding of some of 
the other use cases with the Buzzclip.

With regards to the visually impaired individuals that does not use a 
cane, it is more for people with loss of peripheral vision or have large 
blind spots. Examples are individuals with RP, Glaucoma, diabetic 
retinopathy. A lot of these individuals have sufficient focal vision 
that they do not require a cane or a guide dog to make their way around. 
How ever they do very often run into obstacles or people that are out 
side of their field of vision or in their blind spot. No matter how 
careful you are, it is simple not feasible to be scanning at you blind 
spot every single moment. To these individuals, the Buzzclip would serve 
as an early warning. I apologize for not clarifying this in the initial 
email.

Please don't hesitate to let us know if you have any other questions!

Best Regards
Bin Liu

On 2015-10-23 1:29 PM, Marianne Denning via blindkid wrote:
> The way I read it is it can be used either way.  If you use a cane then it
> will provide information about objects that may be above your waist and if
> you have some ision and are embarrassed to use a cane then it will detect
> objects that may be in your path.  My thought is that if your vision is bad
> enough that you need this device then you should be using a cane or dog.
>
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Allison Hilliker via blindkid <
> blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
>> Interesting. Is it meant to be used in place of or along with a cane?
>>
>> Also, what does it look like? I didn't see a description on the Indiegogo
>> page. I notice that this info is often missing from descriptions of any AT
>> marketed to blind people, even though we care about what things look like.
>> Especially things that are meant to be worn.
>>
>> Best,
>> Allison
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindkid [mailto:blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of iMerciv
>> via blindkid
>> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 7:28 AM
>> To: blindkid at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: iMerciv
>> Subject: [blindkid] The BuzzClip: Wearable Technology for the Blind
>>
>> Dear Readers,
>>
>>
>>
>> We wanted to share with some information with you about a new
>> revolutionary product that could really change the lives of people living
>> with vision loss all over the world. The BuzzClip is currently live on
>> Indiegogo and while our campaign is promoting this cool new technology, it
>> also has a big social cause attached to it. For more information please
>> check out our campaign page:
>> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-buzzclip-wearable-ultrasound-for-the-blind/x/11673979#/
>> <
>> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-buzzclip-wearable-ultrasound-for-the-blind/x/11673979#/
>> Our device has been street tested here in Toronto, as well as the U.S and
>> India by hundreds of visually impaired individuals.
>> We have working units at many organizations within Toronto that have been
>> testing our device with their clients and the response thus far has been
>> amazing. You can watch the BuzzClip in action or hear what some of our
>> users have to say about it on our Youtube Channel:
>> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSnwSwEYIMD-bs8xOZM4tIQ <
>> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSnwSwEYIMD-bs8xOZM4tIQ>
>>
>> It would be great if you could share this information with anyone who
>> would benefit from using a device like this or anyone who may want to order
>> one for family and friends. With the support of the public, we can build a
>> better product and can have them in the hands of people that truly need
>> them as early as the spring of 2016.
>>
>> Please contact us if you have any questions and we really look forward to
>> hearing from you.
>> Thank You & Best Regards,
>>
>> The iMerciv Team
>> _______________________________________________
>> blindkid mailing list
>> blindkid at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindkid_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> blindkid:
>>
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindkid_nfbnet.org/allisonh%40benetech.org
>>
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>
>




From dsmithnfb at gmail.com  Fri Oct 23 21:48:33 2015
From: dsmithnfb at gmail.com (Darian Smith)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 14:48:33 -0700
Subject: [blindkid] NFB Community Service Division  Newsletter
Message-ID: <A5FED4A3-0C9C-4958-9BF1-F9E0EC12F5DB@gmail.com>

Fellow Federationists,
 I just wanted to share  with you all the first ever newsletter of the NFB Community Service Divison.
  Please See the below:
 http://nfbcommunityservice.org/newsletter_fall_2015 <http://nfbcommunityservice.org/newsletter_fall_2015>
 Please be in touch if you should?ve any questions, thoughts, or suggestions.
  Best,
  Darian  

From arielle71 at gmail.com  Fri Oct 23 22:00:23 2015
From: arielle71 at gmail.com (Arielle Silverman)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 15:00:23 -0700
Subject: [blindkid] The BuzzClip: Wearable Technology for the Blind
In-Reply-To: <562AA4D8.90101@imerciv.com>
References: <0B857C68-9CBB-4F5A-8DA6-2ACC49A789CA@imerciv.com>
	<CY1PR06MB180200B771E3C2C41DDB1FB6AA260@CY1PR06MB1802.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>
	<CANZu-Jivr1U-G_v+8SpPkhj1gJiPAn9h=NmQvHuynFDVEv2LDg@mail.gmail.com>
	<562AA4D8.90101@imerciv.com>
Message-ID: <CALAYQJBAp5C29YF7v4jcqo3Er4GUoE3h8_1vjA2Sf=+VpGkPWQ@mail.gmail.com>

What is the anticipated cost for the Buzz Clip, and how much training
is needed to learn how to react to the vibration patterns?
Arielle

On 10/23/15, bin liu via blindkid <blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hi Marianne,
>
> For cane and guide dog users, we definitely recommend that they use the
> Buzzclip together with what they are currently using. The Buzzclip
> however does a lot more than just offering protection from obstacles
> waist and above. Since it is wearable and hands free it helps in a lot
> of situations. I Cced the mailing list when I replied to Allison just
> now please take a look at that to get a better understanding of some of
> the other use cases with the Buzzclip.
>
> With regards to the visually impaired individuals that does not use a
> cane, it is more for people with loss of peripheral vision or have large
> blind spots. Examples are individuals with RP, Glaucoma, diabetic
> retinopathy. A lot of these individuals have sufficient focal vision
> that they do not require a cane or a guide dog to make their way around.
> How ever they do very often run into obstacles or people that are out
> side of their field of vision or in their blind spot. No matter how
> careful you are, it is simple not feasible to be scanning at you blind
> spot every single moment. To these individuals, the Buzzclip would serve
> as an early warning. I apologize for not clarifying this in the initial
> email.
>
> Please don't hesitate to let us know if you have any other questions!
>
> Best Regards
> Bin Liu
>
> On 2015-10-23 1:29 PM, Marianne Denning via blindkid wrote:
>> The way I read it is it can be used either way.  If you use a cane then
>> it
>> will provide information about objects that may be above your waist and
>> if
>> you have some ision and are embarrassed to use a cane then it will detect
>> objects that may be in your path.  My thought is that if your vision is
>> bad
>> enough that you need this device then you should be using a cane or dog.
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Allison Hilliker via blindkid <
>> blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Interesting. Is it meant to be used in place of or along with a cane?
>>>
>>> Also, what does it look like? I didn't see a description on the
>>> Indiegogo
>>> page. I notice that this info is often missing from descriptions of any
>>> AT
>>> marketed to blind people, even though we care about what things look
>>> like.
>>> Especially things that are meant to be worn.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Allison
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blindkid [mailto:blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of iMerciv
>>> via blindkid
>>> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 7:28 AM
>>> To: blindkid at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: iMerciv
>>> Subject: [blindkid] The BuzzClip: Wearable Technology for the Blind
>>>
>>> Dear Readers,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We wanted to share with some information with you about a new
>>> revolutionary product that could really change the lives of people
>>> living
>>> with vision loss all over the world. The BuzzClip is currently live on
>>> Indiegogo and while our campaign is promoting this cool new technology,
>>> it
>>> also has a big social cause attached to it. For more information please
>>> check out our campaign page:
>>> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-buzzclip-wearable-ultrasound-for-the-blind/x/11673979#/
>>> <
>>> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-buzzclip-wearable-ultrasound-for-the-blind/x/11673979#/
>>> Our device has been street tested here in Toronto, as well as the U.S
>>> and
>>> India by hundreds of visually impaired individuals.
>>> We have working units at many organizations within Toronto that have
>>> been
>>> testing our device with their clients and the response thus far has been
>>> amazing. You can watch the BuzzClip in action or hear what some of our
>>> users have to say about it on our Youtube Channel:
>>> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSnwSwEYIMD-bs8xOZM4tIQ <
>>> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSnwSwEYIMD-bs8xOZM4tIQ>
>>>
>>> It would be great if you could share this information with anyone who
>>> would benefit from using a device like this or anyone who may want to
>>> order
>>> one for family and friends. With the support of the public, we can build
>>> a
>>> better product and can have them in the hands of people that truly need
>>> them as early as the spring of 2016.
>>>
>>> Please contact us if you have any questions and we really look forward
>>> to
>>> hearing from you.
>>> Thank You & Best Regards,
>>>
>>> The iMerciv Team
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> blindkid mailing list
>>> blindkid at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindkid_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>> blindkid:
>>>
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindkid_nfbnet.org/allisonh%40benetech.org
>>>
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>>> blindkid at nfbnet.org
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>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>> blindkid:
>>>
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>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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From info at imerciv.com  Fri Oct 23 22:31:48 2015
From: info at imerciv.com (bin liu)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 18:31:48 -0400
Subject: [blindkid] The BuzzClip: Wearable Technology for the Blind
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Hi Arielle,

The Buzzclip will hit the market next year around March - April. The 
retail price will be $199. We are currently doing an Indiegogo campaign 
for Pre-Orders. Right now the Early bird price is at $129 plus shipping. 
The device is extremely easy to operate. After attaching it to the 
desired location, you can simple toggle between Off - 1m mode - 2m mode 
by rotating the round cover of the at the top. Our testers typically 
takes between 5 to 10mins to fully understand how the device functions. 
We are how ever working with some O&M instructors to try and figure out 
some basic training instructions that will demonstrate how to utilize 
the feedback from the Buzzclip effectively in different situations.

Please let me know if you have any other questions.

Best Regards
The iMerciv Team

On 2015-10-23 6:00 PM, Arielle Silverman via blindkid wrote:
> What is the anticipated cost for the Buzz Clip, and how much training
> is needed to learn how to react to the vibration patterns?
> Arielle
>
> On 10/23/15, bin liu via blindkid <blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Hi Marianne,
>>
>> For cane and guide dog users, we definitely recommend that they use the
>> Buzzclip together with what they are currently using. The Buzzclip
>> however does a lot more than just offering protection from obstacles
>> waist and above. Since it is wearable and hands free it helps in a lot
>> of situations. I Cced the mailing list when I replied to Allison just
>> now please take a look at that to get a better understanding of some of
>> the other use cases with the Buzzclip.
>>
>> With regards to the visually impaired individuals that does not use a
>> cane, it is more for people with loss of peripheral vision or have large
>> blind spots. Examples are individuals with RP, Glaucoma, diabetic
>> retinopathy. A lot of these individuals have sufficient focal vision
>> that they do not require a cane or a guide dog to make their way around.
>> How ever they do very often run into obstacles or people that are out
>> side of their field of vision or in their blind spot. No matter how
>> careful you are, it is simple not feasible to be scanning at you blind
>> spot every single moment. To these individuals, the Buzzclip would serve
>> as an early warning. I apologize for not clarifying this in the initial
>> email.
>>
>> Please don't hesitate to let us know if you have any other questions!
>>
>> Best Regards
>> Bin Liu
>>
>> On 2015-10-23 1:29 PM, Marianne Denning via blindkid wrote:
>>> The way I read it is it can be used either way.  If you use a cane then
>>> it
>>> will provide information about objects that may be above your waist and
>>> if
>>> you have some ision and are embarrassed to use a cane then it will detect
>>> objects that may be in your path.  My thought is that if your vision is
>>> bad
>>> enough that you need this device then you should be using a cane or dog.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Allison Hilliker via blindkid <
>>> blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Interesting. Is it meant to be used in place of or along with a cane?
>>>>
>>>> Also, what does it look like? I didn't see a description on the
>>>> Indiegogo
>>>> page. I notice that this info is often missing from descriptions of any
>>>> AT
>>>> marketed to blind people, even though we care about what things look
>>>> like.
>>>> Especially things that are meant to be worn.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Allison
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: blindkid [mailto:blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of iMerciv
>>>> via blindkid
>>>> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 7:28 AM
>>>> To: blindkid at nfbnet.org
>>>> Cc: iMerciv
>>>> Subject: [blindkid] The BuzzClip: Wearable Technology for the Blind
>>>>
>>>> Dear Readers,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We wanted to share with some information with you about a new
>>>> revolutionary product that could really change the lives of people
>>>> living
>>>> with vision loss all over the world. The BuzzClip is currently live on
>>>> Indiegogo and while our campaign is promoting this cool new technology,
>>>> it
>>>> also has a big social cause attached to it. For more information please
>>>> check out our campaign page:
>>>> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-buzzclip-wearable-ultrasound-for-the-blind/x/11673979#/
>>>> <
>>>> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-buzzclip-wearable-ultrasound-for-the-blind/x/11673979#/
>>>> Our device has been street tested here in Toronto, as well as the U.S
>>>> and
>>>> India by hundreds of visually impaired individuals.
>>>> We have working units at many organizations within Toronto that have
>>>> been
>>>> testing our device with their clients and the response thus far has been
>>>> amazing. You can watch the BuzzClip in action or hear what some of our
>>>> users have to say about it on our Youtube Channel:
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSnwSwEYIMD-bs8xOZM4tIQ <
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSnwSwEYIMD-bs8xOZM4tIQ>
>>>>
>>>> It would be great if you could share this information with anyone who
>>>> would benefit from using a device like this or anyone who may want to
>>>> order
>>>> one for family and friends. With the support of the public, we can build
>>>> a
>>>> better product and can have them in the hands of people that truly need
>>>> them as early as the spring of 2016.
>>>>
>>>> Please contact us if you have any questions and we really look forward
>>>> to
>>>> hearing from you.
>>>> Thank You & Best Regards,
>>>>
>>>> The iMerciv Team
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> blindkid mailing list
>>>> blindkid at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindkid_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>> blindkid:
>>>>
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindkid_nfbnet.org/allisonh%40benetech.org
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> blindkid at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindkid_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>> blindkid:
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>
>>
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From traci.mwd at gmail.com  Fri Oct 23 22:32:16 2015
From: traci.mwd at gmail.com (Traci W)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 18:32:16 -0400
Subject: [blindkid] The BuzzClip: Wearable Technology for the Blind
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$129

Sent from my iPhone please pardon bad spelling!!

> On Oct 23, 2015, at 6:00 PM, Arielle Silverman via blindkid <blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> What is the anticipated cost for the Buzz Clip, and how much training
> is needed to learn how to react to the vibration patterns?
> Arielle
> 
>> On 10/23/15, bin liu via blindkid <blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Hi Marianne,
>> 
>> For cane and guide dog users, we definitely recommend that they use the
>> Buzzclip together with what they are currently using. The Buzzclip
>> however does a lot more than just offering protection from obstacles
>> waist and above. Since it is wearable and hands free it helps in a lot
>> of situations. I Cced the mailing list when I replied to Allison just
>> now please take a look at that to get a better understanding of some of
>> the other use cases with the Buzzclip.
>> 
>> With regards to the visually impaired individuals that does not use a
>> cane, it is more for people with loss of peripheral vision or have large
>> blind spots. Examples are individuals with RP, Glaucoma, diabetic
>> retinopathy. A lot of these individuals have sufficient focal vision
>> that they do not require a cane or a guide dog to make their way around.
>> How ever they do very often run into obstacles or people that are out
>> side of their field of vision or in their blind spot. No matter how
>> careful you are, it is simple not feasible to be scanning at you blind
>> spot every single moment. To these individuals, the Buzzclip would serve
>> as an early warning. I apologize for not clarifying this in the initial
>> email.
>> 
>> Please don't hesitate to let us know if you have any other questions!
>> 
>> Best Regards
>> Bin Liu
>> 
>>> On 2015-10-23 1:29 PM, Marianne Denning via blindkid wrote:
>>> The way I read it is it can be used either way.  If you use a cane then
>>> it
>>> will provide information about objects that may be above your waist and
>>> if
>>> you have some ision and are embarrassed to use a cane then it will detect
>>> objects that may be in your path.  My thought is that if your vision is
>>> bad
>>> enough that you need this device then you should be using a cane or dog.
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Allison Hilliker via blindkid <
>>> blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Interesting. Is it meant to be used in place of or along with a cane?
>>>> 
>>>> Also, what does it look like? I didn't see a description on the
>>>> Indiegogo
>>>> page. I notice that this info is often missing from descriptions of any
>>>> AT
>>>> marketed to blind people, even though we care about what things look
>>>> like.
>>>> Especially things that are meant to be worn.
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> Allison
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: blindkid [mailto:blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of iMerciv
>>>> via blindkid
>>>> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 7:28 AM
>>>> To: blindkid at nfbnet.org
>>>> Cc: iMerciv
>>>> Subject: [blindkid] The BuzzClip: Wearable Technology for the Blind
>>>> 
>>>> Dear Readers,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> We wanted to share with some information with you about a new
>>>> revolutionary product that could really change the lives of people
>>>> living
>>>> with vision loss all over the world. The BuzzClip is currently live on
>>>> Indiegogo and while our campaign is promoting this cool new technology,
>>>> it
>>>> also has a big social cause attached to it. For more information please
>>>> check out our campaign page:
>>>> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-buzzclip-wearable-ultrasound-for-the-blind/x/11673979#/
>>>> <
>>>> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-buzzclip-wearable-ultrasound-for-the-blind/x/11673979#/
>>>> Our device has been street tested here in Toronto, as well as the U.S
>>>> and
>>>> India by hundreds of visually impaired individuals.
>>>> We have working units at many organizations within Toronto that have
>>>> been
>>>> testing our device with their clients and the response thus far has been
>>>> amazing. You can watch the BuzzClip in action or hear what some of our
>>>> users have to say about it on our Youtube Channel:
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSnwSwEYIMD-bs8xOZM4tIQ <
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSnwSwEYIMD-bs8xOZM4tIQ>
>>>> 
>>>> It would be great if you could share this information with anyone who
>>>> would benefit from using a device like this or anyone who may want to
>>>> order
>>>> one for family and friends. With the support of the public, we can build
>>>> a
>>>> better product and can have them in the hands of people that truly need
>>>> them as early as the spring of 2016.
>>>> 
>>>> Please contact us if you have any questions and we really look forward
>>>> to
>>>> hearing from you.
>>>> Thank You & Best Regards,
>>>> 
>>>> The iMerciv Team
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> blindkid mailing list
>>>> blindkid at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindkid_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>> blindkid:
>>>> 
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindkid_nfbnet.org/allisonh%40benetech.org
>>>> 
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>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>> blindkid:
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>> 
>> 
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From carol.joyce.castellano at gmail.com  Fri Oct 23 22:54:27 2015
From: carol.joyce.castellano at gmail.com (Carol Castellano)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 18:54:27 -0400
Subject: [blindkid] The BuzzClip: Wearable Technology for the Blind
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Do you set the angle somehow so that it corresponds to the height of the
person's head and a certain distance from the head?

Carol

Carol Castellano
Parents of Blind Children-NJ
National Organization of Parents of Blind Children
973-377-0976
carol_castellano at verizon.net
www.blindchildren.org
www.nopbc.org

On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 6:31 PM, bin liu via blindkid <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

> Hi Arielle,
>
> The Buzzclip will hit the market next year around March - April. The
> retail price will be $199. We are currently doing an Indiegogo campaign for
> Pre-Orders. Right now the Early bird price is at $129 plus shipping. The
> device is extremely easy to operate. After attaching it to the desired
> location, you can simple toggle between Off - 1m mode - 2m mode by rotating
> the round cover of the at the top. Our testers typically takes between 5 to
> 10mins to fully understand how the device functions. We are how ever
> working with some O&M instructors to try and figure out some basic training
> instructions that will demonstrate how to utilize the feedback from the
> Buzzclip effectively in different situations.
>
> Please let me know if you have any other questions.
>
> Best Regards
> The iMerciv Team
>
> On 2015-10-23 6:00 PM, Arielle Silverman via blindkid wrote:
>
>> What is the anticipated cost for the Buzz Clip, and how much training
>> is needed to learn how to react to the vibration patterns?
>> Arielle
>>
>> On 10/23/15, bin liu via blindkid <blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Marianne,
>>>
>>> For cane and guide dog users, we definitely recommend that they use the
>>> Buzzclip together with what they are currently using. The Buzzclip
>>> however does a lot more than just offering protection from obstacles
>>> waist and above. Since it is wearable and hands free it helps in a lot
>>> of situations. I Cced the mailing list when I replied to Allison just
>>> now please take a look at that to get a better understanding of some of
>>> the other use cases with the Buzzclip.
>>>
>>> With regards to the visually impaired individuals that does not use a
>>> cane, it is more for people with loss of peripheral vision or have large
>>> blind spots. Examples are individuals with RP, Glaucoma, diabetic
>>> retinopathy. A lot of these individuals have sufficient focal vision
>>> that they do not require a cane or a guide dog to make their way around.
>>> How ever they do very often run into obstacles or people that are out
>>> side of their field of vision or in their blind spot. No matter how
>>> careful you are, it is simple not feasible to be scanning at you blind
>>> spot every single moment. To these individuals, the Buzzclip would serve
>>> as an early warning. I apologize for not clarifying this in the initial
>>> email.
>>>
>>> Please don't hesitate to let us know if you have any other questions!
>>>
>>> Best Regards
>>> Bin Liu
>>>
>>> On 2015-10-23 1:29 PM, Marianne Denning via blindkid wrote:
>>>
>>>> The way I read it is it can be used either way.  If you use a cane then
>>>> it
>>>> will provide information about objects that may be above your waist and
>>>> if
>>>> you have some ision and are embarrassed to use a cane then it will
>>>> detect
>>>> objects that may be in your path.  My thought is that if your vision is
>>>> bad
>>>> enough that you need this device then you should be using a cane or dog.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Allison Hilliker via blindkid <
>>>> blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Interesting. Is it meant to be used in place of or along with a cane?
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, what does it look like? I didn't see a description on the
>>>>> Indiegogo
>>>>> page. I notice that this info is often missing from descriptions of any
>>>>> AT
>>>>> marketed to blind people, even though we care about what things look
>>>>> like.
>>>>> Especially things that are meant to be worn.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Allison
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: blindkid [mailto:blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>> iMerciv
>>>>> via blindkid
>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 7:28 AM
>>>>> To: blindkid at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Cc: iMerciv
>>>>> Subject: [blindkid] The BuzzClip: Wearable Technology for the Blind
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Readers,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We wanted to share with some information with you about a new
>>>>> revolutionary product that could really change the lives of people
>>>>> living
>>>>> with vision loss all over the world. The BuzzClip is currently live on
>>>>> Indiegogo and while our campaign is promoting this cool new technology,
>>>>> it
>>>>> also has a big social cause attached to it. For more information please
>>>>> check out our campaign page:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-buzzclip-wearable-ultrasound-for-the-blind/x/11673979#/
>>>>> <
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-buzzclip-wearable-ultrasound-for-the-blind/x/11673979#/
>>>>> Our device has been street tested here in Toronto, as well as the U.S
>>>>> and
>>>>> India by hundreds of visually impaired individuals.
>>>>> We have working units at many organizations within Toronto that have
>>>>> been
>>>>> testing our device with their clients and the response thus far has
>>>>> been
>>>>> amazing. You can watch the BuzzClip in action or hear what some of our
>>>>> users have to say about it on our Youtube Channel:
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSnwSwEYIMD-bs8xOZM4tIQ <
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSnwSwEYIMD-bs8xOZM4tIQ>
>>>>>
>>>>> It would be great if you could share this information with anyone who
>>>>> would benefit from using a device like this or anyone who may want to
>>>>> order
>>>>> one for family and friends. With the support of the public, we can
>>>>> build
>>>>> a
>>>>> better product and can have them in the hands of people that truly need
>>>>> them as early as the spring of 2016.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please contact us if you have any questions and we really look forward
>>>>> to
>>>>> hearing from you.
>>>>> Thank You & Best Regards,
>>>>>
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From info at imerciv.com  Fri Oct 23 23:24:22 2015
From: info at imerciv.com (bin liu)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 19:24:22 -0400
Subject: [blindkid] The BuzzClip: Wearable Technology for the Blind
In-Reply-To: <CACsEhVLPg98UERCNaAGYix4sNNqLTY3fGS9owGx3en5iJz-EiQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0B857C68-9CBB-4F5A-8DA6-2ACC49A789CA@imerciv.com>
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Hi Carol,

The detection range is fixed. As it is a sound based sensor the range is 
not a fixed shape. You can picture it as a slightly blown up/distorted 
Cone shaped detection range expanding outwards from the location of the 
sensor to the direction it points at. At 2 meters the it detects the 
area of approximately a 1m diameter circle. So if worn at the collar of 
a shirt, it would cover you from waist to 10 - 20cm above your head 
depending on your height and about 5-10cm to each side of your shoulder.

Best Regards
The iMerciv Team

On 2015-10-23 6:54 PM, Carol Castellano via blindkid wrote:
> Do you set the angle somehow so that it corresponds to the height of the
> person's head and a certain distance from the head?
>
> Carol
>
> Carol Castellano
> Parents of Blind Children-NJ
> National Organization of Parents of Blind Children
> 973-377-0976
> carol_castellano at verizon.net
> www.blindchildren.org
> www.nopbc.org
>
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 6:31 PM, bin liu via blindkid <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Arielle,
>>
>> The Buzzclip will hit the market next year around March - April. The
>> retail price will be $199. We are currently doing an Indiegogo campaign for
>> Pre-Orders. Right now the Early bird price is at $129 plus shipping. The
>> device is extremely easy to operate. After attaching it to the desired
>> location, you can simple toggle between Off - 1m mode - 2m mode by rotating
>> the round cover of the at the top. Our testers typically takes between 5 to
>> 10mins to fully understand how the device functions. We are how ever
>> working with some O&M instructors to try and figure out some basic training
>> instructions that will demonstrate how to utilize the feedback from the
>> Buzzclip effectively in different situations.
>>
>> Please let me know if you have any other questions.
>>
>> Best Regards
>> The iMerciv Team
>>
>> On 2015-10-23 6:00 PM, Arielle Silverman via blindkid wrote:
>>
>>> What is the anticipated cost for the Buzz Clip, and how much training
>>> is needed to learn how to react to the vibration patterns?
>>> Arielle
>>>
>>> On 10/23/15, bin liu via blindkid <blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Marianne,
>>>>
>>>> For cane and guide dog users, we definitely recommend that they use the
>>>> Buzzclip together with what they are currently using. The Buzzclip
>>>> however does a lot more than just offering protection from obstacles
>>>> waist and above. Since it is wearable and hands free it helps in a lot
>>>> of situations. I Cced the mailing list when I replied to Allison just
>>>> now please take a look at that to get a better understanding of some of
>>>> the other use cases with the Buzzclip.
>>>>
>>>> With regards to the visually impaired individuals that does not use a
>>>> cane, it is more for people with loss of peripheral vision or have large
>>>> blind spots. Examples are individuals with RP, Glaucoma, diabetic
>>>> retinopathy. A lot of these individuals have sufficient focal vision
>>>> that they do not require a cane or a guide dog to make their way around.
>>>> How ever they do very often run into obstacles or people that are out
>>>> side of their field of vision or in their blind spot. No matter how
>>>> careful you are, it is simple not feasible to be scanning at you blind
>>>> spot every single moment. To these individuals, the Buzzclip would serve
>>>> as an early warning. I apologize for not clarifying this in the initial
>>>> email.
>>>>
>>>> Please don't hesitate to let us know if you have any other questions!
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards
>>>> Bin Liu
>>>>
>>>> On 2015-10-23 1:29 PM, Marianne Denning via blindkid wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The way I read it is it can be used either way.  If you use a cane then
>>>>> it
>>>>> will provide information about objects that may be above your waist and
>>>>> if
>>>>> you have some ision and are embarrassed to use a cane then it will
>>>>> detect
>>>>> objects that may be in your path.  My thought is that if your vision is
>>>>> bad
>>>>> enough that you need this device then you should be using a cane or dog.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Allison Hilliker via blindkid <
>>>>> blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Interesting. Is it meant to be used in place of or along with a cane?
>>>>>> Also, what does it look like? I didn't see a description on the
>>>>>> Indiegogo
>>>>>> page. I notice that this info is often missing from descriptions of any
>>>>>> AT
>>>>>> marketed to blind people, even though we care about what things look
>>>>>> like.
>>>>>> Especially things that are meant to be worn.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Allison
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: blindkid [mailto:blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>>> iMerciv
>>>>>> via blindkid
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 7:28 AM
>>>>>> To: blindkid at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> Cc: iMerciv
>>>>>> Subject: [blindkid] The BuzzClip: Wearable Technology for the Blind
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Readers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We wanted to share with some information with you about a new
>>>>>> revolutionary product that could really change the lives of people
>>>>>> living
>>>>>> with vision loss all over the world. The BuzzClip is currently live on
>>>>>> Indiegogo and while our campaign is promoting this cool new technology,
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> also has a big social cause attached to it. For more information please
>>>>>> check out our campaign page:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-buzzclip-wearable-ultrasound-for-the-blind/x/11673979#/
>>>>>> <
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-buzzclip-wearable-ultrasound-for-the-blind/x/11673979#/
>>>>>> Our device has been street tested here in Toronto, as well as the U.S
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> India by hundreds of visually impaired individuals.
>>>>>> We have working units at many organizations within Toronto that have
>>>>>> been
>>>>>> testing our device with their clients and the response thus far has
>>>>>> been
>>>>>> amazing. You can watch the BuzzClip in action or hear what some of our
>>>>>> users have to say about it on our Youtube Channel:
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSnwSwEYIMD-bs8xOZM4tIQ <
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSnwSwEYIMD-bs8xOZM4tIQ>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It would be great if you could share this information with anyone who
>>>>>> would benefit from using a device like this or anyone who may want to
>>>>>> order
>>>>>> one for family and friends. With the support of the public, we can
>>>>>> build
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> better product and can have them in the hands of people that truly need
>>>>>> them as early as the spring of 2016.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please contact us if you have any questions and we really look forward
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> hearing from you.
>>>>>> Thank You & Best Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The iMerciv Team
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From amspencer at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 24 19:19:53 2015
From: amspencer at yahoo.com (Alison Stephens)
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2015 19:19:53 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [blindkid] The BuzzClip: Wearable Technology for the Blind
In-Reply-To: <mailman.79.1445688004.15797.blindkid_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>
References: <mailman.79.1445688004.15797.blindkid_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>
Message-ID: <1631475911.2583311.1445714393687.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>

This device looks interesting as an additional tool in the toolbox and I think my 1st grade son would have fun trying it out.? I once got to try something similar, which was a handheld device owned by someone from Australia.? It was something like the Miniguide which is currently sold in the USA for $499 at LS&S. The new BuzzClip is definitely more affordable.? The following is a link to the Miniguide:

http://www.lssproducts.com/product/Miniguide-Mobility-Aid/other-canes-and-accessories
The Miniguide changes the intensity of vibration depending on how far away something is.? I wonder if the BuzzClip also changes intensity with distance?
Alison
  

From info at imerciv.com  Sat Oct 24 19:50:14 2015
From: info at imerciv.com (bin liu)
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2015 15:50:14 -0400
Subject: [blindkid] The BuzzClip: Wearable Technology for the Blind
In-Reply-To: <1631475911.2583311.1445714393687.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <mailman.79.1445688004.15797.blindkid_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>
	<1631475911.2583311.1445714393687.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <562BE0F6.50504@imerciv.com>

Hi Alison,

The Buzzclip changes the vibration based on distance as well. The 
vibration comes in pulses and as distance decrease the pulses becomes 
faster and stronger. We have also added some extra features. if anything 
comes with in 50cm the Buzzclip will vibrate intensely 3 times to warn 
the user to stop or move out of the way. Also we have added a sleep 
function where if the distance stays constant for more than a few 
seconds the device automatically sleeps and stops vibrating (For example 
if you are having a conversation with someone). The device will 
reactivate immediately when the distance changes for more than 10-15cm 
from the distance at which it went to sleep.

Best Regards
The iMerciv Team.

On 2015-10-24 3:19 PM, Alison Stephens via blindkid wrote:
> This device looks interesting as an additional tool in the toolbox and I think my 1st grade son would have fun trying it out.  I once got to try something similar, which was a handheld device owned by someone from Australia.  It was something like the Miniguide which is currently sold in the USA for $499 at LS&S. The new BuzzClip is definitely more affordable.  The following is a link to the Miniguide:
>
> http://www.lssproducts.com/product/Miniguide-Mobility-Aid/other-canes-and-accessories
> The Miniguide changes the intensity of vibration depending on how far away something is.  I wonder if the BuzzClip also changes intensity with distance?
> Alison
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From rbacchus228 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 27 13:05:09 2015
From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (Roanna Bacchus)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 09:05:09 -0400
Subject: [blindkid] How Blind Children can help with Thanksgiving
	Preparations
Message-ID: <562f76a7.16d60d0a.47efa.5437@mx.google.com>

Dear Parents,

Since November first is a few days away, that means Thanksgiving 
is right around the corner.  I have a question for all of you.  
How can blind children help with preparation for Thanksgiving 
dinner? I remember helping my mom stir our pumplin pie and making 
a sweet potato pie one year.  I'd love to hear your thoughts on 
this topic.



From kim at gulfimagesphoto.com  Tue Oct 27 13:29:37 2015
From: kim at gulfimagesphoto.com (Kim Gulf Images)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 08:29:37 -0500
Subject: [blindkid] How Blind Children can help with Thanksgiving
	Preparations
In-Reply-To: <562f76a7.16d60d0a.47efa.5437@mx.google.com>
References: <562f76a7.16d60d0a.47efa.5437@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <EB1D3C20-BC12-421D-BE23-C74EAAFCBC81@gulfimagesphoto.com>

Thanksgiving and the holidays are great times to have fun with your blind kids. When my daughter was young she would help make the pumpkin pie, bake cookies, and wash dishes! She was great at setting the table too! Cooking is a good way to provide sensory input by feeling all the ingredients. Flour is so soft and fluffy while salt is course and sharp. Let your child explore the size of the turkey before you bake it. You can point out body parts (or lack there of!). 
The NFB Independence Market has great cooking aids. Santa might want to bring some Braille measuring cups and spoons!
Kim Cunningham


Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 27, 2015, at 8:05 AM, Roanna Bacchus via blindkid <blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Dear Parents,
> 
> Since November first is a few days away, that means Thanksgiving is right around the corner.  I have a question for all of you.  How can blind children help with preparation for Thanksgiving dinner? I remember helping my mom stir our pumplin pie and making a sweet potato pie one year.  I'd love to hear your thoughts on this topic.
> 
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From marianne at denningweb.com  Tue Oct 27 14:21:40 2015
From: marianne at denningweb.com (Marianne Denning)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 10:21:40 -0400
Subject: [blindkid] How Blind Children can help with Thanksgiving
	Preparations
In-Reply-To: <EB1D3C20-BC12-421D-BE23-C74EAAFCBC81@gulfimagesphoto.com>
References: <562f76a7.16d60d0a.47efa.5437@mx.google.com>
	<EB1D3C20-BC12-421D-BE23-C74EAAFCBC81@gulfimagesphoto.com>
Message-ID: <CANZu-JjKvero8p6uh5eBtWGgKmQfG_cRkvFCeusiWx=pL=6NYw@mail.gmail.com>

Blind children can participate in the same age appropriate way their
sighted peers participate.  I am blind and have cooked Thanksgiving meals
for many years.  Be sure you have oven mits, graduated measuring cups, and
anything else that will make cooking safe for all family members.  I am the
host mom for a totally blind student from the Republic of Georgia.  The
parents meant well but they did not allow him to do anything.  He wants to
be independent so badly and I am teaching him the skills as we go.  It is
much easier to teach those skills to young children than teens.  I am a TVI
and also worked as a rehabilitation teacher.  Please feel free to ask
specific questions and many on this list will give suggestions.

On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 9:29 AM, Kim Gulf Images via blindkid <
blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Thanksgiving and the holidays are great times to have fun with your blind
> kids. When my daughter was young she would help make the pumpkin pie, bake
> cookies, and wash dishes! She was great at setting the table too! Cooking
> is a good way to provide sensory input by feeling all the ingredients.
> Flour is so soft and fluffy while salt is course and sharp. Let your child
> explore the size of the turkey before you bake it. You can point out body
> parts (or lack there of!).
> The NFB Independence Market has great cooking aids. Santa might want to
> bring some Braille measuring cups and spoons!
> Kim Cunningham
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Oct 27, 2015, at 8:05 AM, Roanna Bacchus via blindkid <
> blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Parents,
> >
> > Since November first is a few days away, that means Thanksgiving is
> right around the corner.  I have a question for all of you.  How can blind
> children help with preparation for Thanksgiving dinner? I remember helping
> my mom stir our pumplin pie and making a sweet potato pie one year.  I'd
> love to hear your thoughts on this topic.
> >
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-- 
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Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
(513) 607-6053


From rbacchus228 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 27 18:59:10 2015
From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (Roanna Bacchus)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 14:59:10 -0400
Subject: [blindkid] How Blind Children can help with
	ThanksgivingPreparations
Message-ID: <562fc9a0.c29a810a.87a2d.ffffb28b@mx.google.com>

Hi Marianne thanks for your message.  Many times I have been 
asked to set the table or stir one of the dishes that are being 
prepared.  What are your thoughts about how sighted family 
members treat blind children?



From rbacchus228 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 27 19:29:03 2015
From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (Roanna Bacchus)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 15:29:03 -0400
Subject: [blindkid] How Sighted Family members treat their Blind Relatives
Message-ID: <562fd0a2.4292810a.39e4c.ffff9fcd@mx.google.com>

Dear Parents,

The subject of this email stems from something that happened to 
me a few Summers ago.  My grandmother from Canada was vsisting us 
for a few weeks.  One day when I went to heat my lunch up, she 
called my older sister into the kitchen to heat my food up for 
me.  After that she explained that she had forgotten that I could 
heat up my food in the microwave.  My sighted family members do 
not treat me like I am two years old.  Most of them have no 
problem letting me do things on my own.  I find that many sighted 
people want to learn about how blind individuals accomplish 
certain things.  I'd love to hear your thoughts on this topic.



From marianne at denningweb.com  Tue Oct 27 19:49:13 2015
From: marianne at denningweb.com (Marianne Denning)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 15:49:13 -0400
Subject: [blindkid] How Blind Children can help with
	ThanksgivingPreparations
In-Reply-To: <562fc9a0.c29a810a.87a2d.ffffb28b@mx.google.com>
References: <562fc9a0.c29a810a.87a2d.ffffb28b@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <CANZu-JiEfr6-K+f5MBR3oBAfC1MJbhHLFx8sftFM97faTDz7gA@mail.gmail.com>

I really think they don't know how to provide the instruction to a
blind child. It takes thinking differently for them.  I know hen I
taught my sighted children to cook I had to think in a sighted way.  I
am a born teacher so it wasn't hard for me, but most parents aren't
born teachers.  I know many parents don't teach any of their children
to cook.  Most sighted children learn by observation.  Blind children
have to be specifically taught. When I was growing up it was just Mom
and me so when she cooked I hung out in the kitchen with her so
learned what she was doing through repeated exposure.  She was not
good at teaching me to cook but I learned a lot by being there.  I am
also naturally curious so am always asking questions and exploring my
world.  I hope families encourage the curiosity in their blind
children.  That is even true for children who have significantly
decreased vision.

On 10/27/15, Roanna Bacchus via blindkid <blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hi Marianne thanks for your message.  Many times I have been
> asked to set the table or stir one of the dishes that are being
> prepared.  What are your thoughts about how sighted family
> members treat blind children?
>
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Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
(513) 607-6053



From heidi at thadenpierce.org  Wed Oct 28 14:43:03 2015
From: heidi at thadenpierce.org (Heidi Thaden-Pierce)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 09:43:03 -0500
Subject: [blindkid] help
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Please unsubscribe.

Thank you!

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>      Preparations (Kim Gulf Images)
>   3. Re: How Blind Children can help with Thanksgiving
>      Preparations (Marianne Denning)
>   4. Re: How Blind Children can help with	ThanksgivingPreparations
>      (Roanna Bacchus)
>   5. How Sighted Family members treat their Blind Relatives
>      (Roanna Bacchus)
>   6. Re: How Blind Children can help with	ThanksgivingPreparations
>      (Marianne Denning)
> 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 09:05:09 -0400
> From: Roanna Bacchus <rbacchus228 at gmail.com>
> To: blindkid at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [blindkid] How Blind Children can help with Thanksgiving
> 	Preparations
> Message-ID: <562f76a7.16d60d0a.47efa.5437 at mx.google.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
> Dear Parents,
> 
> Since November first is a few days away, that means Thanksgiving 
> is right around the corner.  I have a question for all of you.  
> How can blind children help with preparation for Thanksgiving 
> dinner? I remember helping my mom stir our pumplin pie and making 
> a sweet potato pie one year.  I'd love to hear your thoughts on 
> this topic.
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 08:29:37 -0500
> From: Kim Gulf Images <kim at gulfimagesphoto.com>
> To: "Blind Kid Mailing List,	(for parents of blind children)"
> 	<blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindkid] How Blind Children can help with Thanksgiving
> 	Preparations
> Message-ID: <EB1D3C20-BC12-421D-BE23-C74EAAFCBC81 at gulfimagesphoto.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii
> 
> Thanksgiving and the holidays are great times to have fun with your blind kids. When my daughter was young she would help make the pumpkin pie, bake cookies, and wash dishes! She was great at setting the table too! Cooking is a good way to provide sensory input by feeling all the ingredients. Flour is so soft and fluffy while salt is course and sharp. Let your child explore the size of the turkey before you bake it. You can point out body parts (or lack there of!). 
> The NFB Independence Market has great cooking aids. Santa might want to bring some Braille measuring cups and spoons!
> Kim Cunningham
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Oct 27, 2015, at 8:05 AM, Roanna Bacchus via blindkid <blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Dear Parents,
>> 
>> Since November first is a few days away, that means Thanksgiving is right around the corner.  I have a question for all of you.  How can blind children help with preparation for Thanksgiving dinner? I remember helping my mom stir our pumplin pie and making a sweet potato pie one year.  I'd love to hear your thoughts on this topic.
>> 
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> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 10:21:40 -0400
> From: Marianne Denning <marianne at denningweb.com>
> To: "Blind Kid Mailing List,	(for parents of blind children)"
> 	<blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindkid] How Blind Children can help with Thanksgiving
> 	Preparations
> Message-ID:
> 	<CANZu-JjKvero8p6uh5eBtWGgKmQfG_cRkvFCeusiWx=pL=6NYw at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> 
> Blind children can participate in the same age appropriate way their
> sighted peers participate.  I am blind and have cooked Thanksgiving meals
> for many years.  Be sure you have oven mits, graduated measuring cups, and
> anything else that will make cooking safe for all family members.  I am the
> host mom for a totally blind student from the Republic of Georgia.  The
> parents meant well but they did not allow him to do anything.  He wants to
> be independent so badly and I am teaching him the skills as we go.  It is
> much easier to teach those skills to young children than teens.  I am a TVI
> and also worked as a rehabilitation teacher.  Please feel free to ask
> specific questions and many on this list will give suggestions.
> 
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 9:29 AM, Kim Gulf Images via blindkid <
> blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
>> Thanksgiving and the holidays are great times to have fun with your blind
>> kids. When my daughter was young she would help make the pumpkin pie, bake
>> cookies, and wash dishes! She was great at setting the table too! Cooking
>> is a good way to provide sensory input by feeling all the ingredients.
>> Flour is so soft and fluffy while salt is course and sharp. Let your child
>> explore the size of the turkey before you bake it. You can point out body
>> parts (or lack there of!).
>> The NFB Independence Market has great cooking aids. Santa might want to
>> bring some Braille measuring cups and spoons!
>> Kim Cunningham
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Oct 27, 2015, at 8:05 AM, Roanna Bacchus via blindkid <
>> blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear Parents,
>>> 
>>> Since November first is a few days away, that means Thanksgiving is
>> right around the corner.  I have a question for all of you.  How can blind
>> children help with preparation for Thanksgiving dinner? I remember helping
>> my mom stir our pumplin pie and making a sweet potato pie one year.  I'd
>> love to hear your thoughts on this topic.
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> blindkid mailing list
>>> blindkid at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindkid_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> blindkid:
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> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
> Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
> (513) 607-6053
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 14:59:10 -0400
> From: Roanna Bacchus <rbacchus228 at gmail.com>
> To: "Blind Kid Mailing List,	\(for parents of blind children\)"
> 	<blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindkid] How Blind Children can help with
> 	ThanksgivingPreparations
> Message-ID: <562fc9a0.c29a810a.87a2d.ffffb28b at mx.google.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
> Hi Marianne thanks for your message.  Many times I have been 
> asked to set the table or stir one of the dishes that are being 
> prepared.  What are your thoughts about how sighted family 
> members treat blind children?
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 15:29:03 -0400
> From: Roanna Bacchus <rbacchus228 at gmail.com>
> To: blindkid at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [blindkid] How Sighted Family members treat their Blind
> 	Relatives
> Message-ID: <562fd0a2.4292810a.39e4c.ffff9fcd at mx.google.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
> Dear Parents,
> 
> The subject of this email stems from something that happened to 
> me a few Summers ago.  My grandmother from Canada was vsisting us 
> for a few weeks.  One day when I went to heat my lunch up, she 
> called my older sister into the kitchen to heat my food up for 
> me.  After that she explained that she had forgotten that I could 
> heat up my food in the microwave.  My sighted family members do 
> not treat me like I am two years old.  Most of them have no 
> problem letting me do things on my own.  I find that many sighted 
> people want to learn about how blind individuals accomplish 
> certain things.  I'd love to hear your thoughts on this topic.
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 15:49:13 -0400
> From: Marianne Denning <marianne at denningweb.com>
> To: "Blind Kid Mailing List,	(for parents of blind children)"
> 	<blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blindkid] How Blind Children can help with
> 	ThanksgivingPreparations
> Message-ID:
> 	<CANZu-JiEfr6-K+f5MBR3oBAfC1MJbhHLFx8sftFM97faTDz7gA at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> 
> I really think they don't know how to provide the instruction to a
> blind child. It takes thinking differently for them.  I know hen I
> taught my sighted children to cook I had to think in a sighted way.  I
> am a born teacher so it wasn't hard for me, but most parents aren't
> born teachers.  I know many parents don't teach any of their children
> to cook.  Most sighted children learn by observation.  Blind children
> have to be specifically taught. When I was growing up it was just Mom
> and me so when she cooked I hung out in the kitchen with her so
> learned what she was doing through repeated exposure.  She was not
> good at teaching me to cook but I learned a lot by being there.  I am
> also naturally curious so am always asking questions and exploring my
> world.  I hope families encourage the curiosity in their blind
> children.  That is even true for children who have significantly
> decreased vision.
> 
> On 10/27/15, Roanna Bacchus via blindkid <blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Hi Marianne thanks for your message.  Many times I have been
>> asked to set the table or stir one of the dishes that are being
>> prepared.  What are your thoughts about how sighted family
>> members treat blind children?
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> blindkid mailing list
>> blindkid at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindkid_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> blindkid:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindkid_nfbnet.org/marianne%40denningweb.com
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
> Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
> (513) 607-6053
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
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From traci.mwd at gmail.com  Wed Oct 28 15:16:55 2015
From: traci.mwd at gmail.com (Traci Wilkerson)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 11:16:55 -0400
Subject: [blindkid] How Blind Children can help with
	ThanksgivingPreparations
In-Reply-To: <CANZu-JiEfr6-K+f5MBR3oBAfC1MJbhHLFx8sftFM97faTDz7gA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <562fc9a0.c29a810a.87a2d.ffffb28b@mx.google.com>
	<CANZu-JiEfr6-K+f5MBR3oBAfC1MJbhHLFx8sftFM97faTDz7gA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACWKtUff6s0Geg8gGW4DRLGCTCQ0mD3y-Zjp3FjvFgUV9Y8GHw@mail.gmail.com>

My daughter loves to cook as well.  I've recently adopted the rule "if you
don't like the leftovers, make your own dinner" and that is what she does!
:)  I'm not a great teacher or very patient, but I do my best and just
don't look at the mess, but she loves being independent.  My son on the
other hand is a struggle, less vision, not as motivated, and his sister
like to do for him.  He loves to stir whats in the pan and bake with me,
but I haven't taught him the microwave yet, that's a def need to do item.

Any advice for getting stuff out of the oven, she is 11, I guess full
covered hand mitts is the way to go there.

Thanks for the reminder!
Traci


On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Marianne Denning via blindkid <
blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> I really think they don't know how to provide the instruction to a
> blind child. It takes thinking differently for them.  I know hen I
> taught my sighted children to cook I had to think in a sighted way.  I
> am a born teacher so it wasn't hard for me, but most parents aren't
> born teachers.  I know many parents don't teach any of their children
> to cook.  Most sighted children learn by observation.  Blind children
> have to be specifically taught. When I was growing up it was just Mom
> and me so when she cooked I hung out in the kitchen with her so
> learned what she was doing through repeated exposure.  She was not
> good at teaching me to cook but I learned a lot by being there.  I am
> also naturally curious so am always asking questions and exploring my
> world.  I hope families encourage the curiosity in their blind
> children.  That is even true for children who have significantly
> decreased vision.
>
> On 10/27/15, Roanna Bacchus via blindkid <blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> > Hi Marianne thanks for your message.  Many times I have been
> > asked to set the table or stir one of the dishes that are being
> > prepared.  What are your thoughts about how sighted family
> > members treat blind children?
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > blindkid mailing list
> > blindkid at nfbnet.org
> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindkid_nfbnet.org
> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> > blindkid:
> >
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindkid_nfbnet.org/marianne%40denningweb.com
> >
>
>
> --
> Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
> Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
> (513) 607-6053
>
> _______________________________________________
> blindkid mailing list
> blindkid at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindkid_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> blindkid:
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>



-- 
Traci Wilkerson
Cell ? 919-971-6526


From carol.joyce.castellano at gmail.com  Wed Oct 28 15:27:49 2015
From: carol.joyce.castellano at gmail.com (Carol Castellano)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 11:27:49 -0400
Subject: [blindkid] How Blind Children can help with
	ThanksgivingPreparations
In-Reply-To: <CACWKtUff6s0Geg8gGW4DRLGCTCQ0mD3y-Zjp3FjvFgUV9Y8GHw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <562fc9a0.c29a810a.87a2d.ffffb28b@mx.google.com>
	<CANZu-JiEfr6-K+f5MBR3oBAfC1MJbhHLFx8sftFM97faTDz7gA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACWKtUff6s0Geg8gGW4DRLGCTCQ0mD3y-Zjp3FjvFgUV9Y8GHw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACsEhVJoMzHOyw36Xpgw1jWrCYf+U5pLirJh1z42D-chmcEwDQ@mail.gmail.com>

For the oven, a blind friend of ours taught my daughter to open the oven
and go down the side of the opening with her hand and then check where the
racks are, before having the pan in your hands.

She suggested practicing this with an empty pan and a cold oven.  It was
great advice.

Also, there are silicone covered oven GLOVES, as opposed to mitts, which
allow movement of the fingers.  My daughter finds these much better for her
to use.

Carol

Carol Castellano
Parents of Blind Children-NJ
National Organization of Parents of Blind Children
973-377-0976
carol_castellano at verizon.net
www.blindchildren.org
www.nopbc.org

On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Traci Wilkerson via blindkid <
blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> My daughter loves to cook as well.  I've recently adopted the rule "if you
> don't like the leftovers, make your own dinner" and that is what she does!
> :)  I'm not a great teacher or very patient, but I do my best and just
> don't look at the mess, but she loves being independent.  My son on the
> other hand is a struggle, less vision, not as motivated, and his sister
> like to do for him.  He loves to stir whats in the pan and bake with me,
> but I haven't taught him the microwave yet, that's a def need to do item.
>
> Any advice for getting stuff out of the oven, she is 11, I guess full
> covered hand mitts is the way to go there.
>
> Thanks for the reminder!
> Traci
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Marianne Denning via blindkid <
> blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> > I really think they don't know how to provide the instruction to a
> > blind child. It takes thinking differently for them.  I know hen I
> > taught my sighted children to cook I had to think in a sighted way.  I
> > am a born teacher so it wasn't hard for me, but most parents aren't
> > born teachers.  I know many parents don't teach any of their children
> > to cook.  Most sighted children learn by observation.  Blind children
> > have to be specifically taught. When I was growing up it was just Mom
> > and me so when she cooked I hung out in the kitchen with her so
> > learned what she was doing through repeated exposure.  She was not
> > good at teaching me to cook but I learned a lot by being there.  I am
> > also naturally curious so am always asking questions and exploring my
> > world.  I hope families encourage the curiosity in their blind
> > children.  That is even true for children who have significantly
> > decreased vision.
> >
> > On 10/27/15, Roanna Bacchus via blindkid <blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> > > Hi Marianne thanks for your message.  Many times I have been
> > > asked to set the table or stir one of the dishes that are being
> > > prepared.  What are your thoughts about how sighted family
> > > members treat blind children?
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > blindkid mailing list
> > > blindkid at nfbnet.org
> > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindkid_nfbnet.org
> > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> > > blindkid:
> > >
> >
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindkid_nfbnet.org/marianne%40denningweb.com
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
> > Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
> > (513) 607-6053
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > blindkid mailing list
> > blindkid at nfbnet.org
> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindkid_nfbnet.org
> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> > blindkid:
> >
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindkid_nfbnet.org/traci.mwd%40gmail.com
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Traci Wilkerson
> Cell ? 919-971-6526
> _______________________________________________
> blindkid mailing list
> blindkid at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindkid_nfbnet.org
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From traci.mwd at gmail.com  Wed Oct 28 15:30:51 2015
From: traci.mwd at gmail.com (Traci Wilkerson)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 11:30:51 -0400
Subject: [blindkid] How Sighted Family members treat their Blind
	Relatives
In-Reply-To: <562fd0a2.4292810a.39e4c.ffff9fcd@mx.google.com>
References: <562fd0a2.4292810a.39e4c.ffff9fcd@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <CACWKtUcqQDVwHVNfj+49K6p5Vy_RXMoMvnD7H0NG8DOS_44=UQ@mail.gmail.com>

Easy, my MIL will still try to spoon feed my 9 and 10 year old!!!  I
promptly tell her to put the spoon down!  She is not comfortable with their
blindness, does not encourage canes, drags them around, etc.  Makes me
crazy.  Not someone who will ever get it, but I talk about it all the time
with my kids that b/c she has a problem, does not make it their problem and
they need to keep doing what they do!  :)

Traci

On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 3:29 PM, Roanna Bacchus via blindkid <
blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Dear Parents,
>
> The subject of this email stems from something that happened to me a few
> Summers ago.  My grandmother from Canada was vsisting us for a few weeks.
> One day when I went to heat my lunch up, she called my older sister into
> the kitchen to heat my food up for me.  After that she explained that she
> had forgotten that I could heat up my food in the microwave.  My sighted
> family members do not treat me like I am two years old.  Most of them have
> no problem letting me do things on my own.  I find that many sighted people
> want to learn about how blind individuals accomplish certain things.  I'd
> love to hear your thoughts on this topic.
>
> _______________________________________________
> blindkid mailing list
> blindkid at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindkid_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> blindkid:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindkid_nfbnet.org/traci.mwd%40gmail.com
>



-- 
Traci Wilkerson
Cell ? 919-971-6526


From traci.mwd at gmail.com  Wed Oct 28 15:41:27 2015
From: traci.mwd at gmail.com (Traci Wilkerson)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 11:41:27 -0400
Subject: [blindkid] How Blind Children can help with
	ThanksgivingPreparations
In-Reply-To: <CACsEhVJoMzHOyw36Xpgw1jWrCYf+U5pLirJh1z42D-chmcEwDQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <562fc9a0.c29a810a.87a2d.ffffb28b@mx.google.com>
	<CANZu-JiEfr6-K+f5MBR3oBAfC1MJbhHLFx8sftFM97faTDz7gA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACWKtUff6s0Geg8gGW4DRLGCTCQ0mD3y-Zjp3FjvFgUV9Y8GHw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACsEhVJoMzHOyw36Xpgw1jWrCYf+U5pLirJh1z42D-chmcEwDQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACWKtUc44HBut91aj=tmmvHGRL5pjpQqSNUWXMG+gyJyUKHGPw@mail.gmail.com>

Great, thanks!

On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Carol Castellano via blindkid <
blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> For the oven, a blind friend of ours taught my daughter to open the oven
> and go down the side of the opening with her hand and then check where the
> racks are, before having the pan in your hands.
>
> She suggested practicing this with an empty pan and a cold oven.  It was
> great advice.
>
> Also, there are silicone covered oven GLOVES, as opposed to mitts, which
> allow movement of the fingers.  My daughter finds these much better for her
> to use.
>
> Carol
>
> Carol Castellano
> Parents of Blind Children-NJ
> National Organization of Parents of Blind Children
> 973-377-0976
> carol_castellano at verizon.net
> www.blindchildren.org
> www.nopbc.org
>
> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Traci Wilkerson via blindkid <
> blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> > My daughter loves to cook as well.  I've recently adopted the rule "if
> you
> > don't like the leftovers, make your own dinner" and that is what she
> does!
> > :)  I'm not a great teacher or very patient, but I do my best and just
> > don't look at the mess, but she loves being independent.  My son on the
> > other hand is a struggle, less vision, not as motivated, and his sister
> > like to do for him.  He loves to stir whats in the pan and bake with me,
> > but I haven't taught him the microwave yet, that's a def need to do item.
> >
> > Any advice for getting stuff out of the oven, she is 11, I guess full
> > covered hand mitts is the way to go there.
> >
> > Thanks for the reminder!
> > Traci
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Marianne Denning via blindkid <
> > blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> > > I really think they don't know how to provide the instruction to a
> > > blind child. It takes thinking differently for them.  I know hen I
> > > taught my sighted children to cook I had to think in a sighted way.  I
> > > am a born teacher so it wasn't hard for me, but most parents aren't
> > > born teachers.  I know many parents don't teach any of their children
> > > to cook.  Most sighted children learn by observation.  Blind children
> > > have to be specifically taught. When I was growing up it was just Mom
> > > and me so when she cooked I hung out in the kitchen with her so
> > > learned what she was doing through repeated exposure.  She was not
> > > good at teaching me to cook but I learned a lot by being there.  I am
> > > also naturally curious so am always asking questions and exploring my
> > > world.  I hope families encourage the curiosity in their blind
> > > children.  That is even true for children who have significantly
> > > decreased vision.
> > >
> > > On 10/27/15, Roanna Bacchus via blindkid <blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> > > > Hi Marianne thanks for your message.  Many times I have been
> > > > asked to set the table or stir one of the dishes that are being
> > > > prepared.  What are your thoughts about how sighted family
> > > > members treat blind children?
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > blindkid mailing list
> > > > blindkid at nfbnet.org
> > > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindkid_nfbnet.org
> > > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> > > > blindkid:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindkid_nfbnet.org/marianne%40denningweb.com
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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> > > Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
> > > (513) 607-6053
> > >
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> >
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Cell ? 919-971-6526


From marianne at denningweb.com  Wed Oct 28 16:28:41 2015
From: marianne at denningweb.com (Marianne Denning)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 12:28:41 -0400
Subject: [blindkid] How Blind Children can help with
	ThanksgivingPreparations
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There are several oven mit options. Many people like the ones that go
all the way to the elbow.  I also have some cloth ones that go just
above my wrist and another pair that feel like rubber.  I can't
remember the material they are made of.  I strongly recommend 2 oven
mitts so she has one for each hand.  Also, let her explore the oven
while it is cold so she learns how things work.  My mom wasn't always
a good teacher but I really learned a lot from her.

On 10/28/15, Traci Wilkerson via blindkid <blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> My daughter loves to cook as well.  I've recently adopted the rule "if you
> don't like the leftovers, make your own dinner" and that is what she does!
> :)  I'm not a great teacher or very patient, but I do my best and just
> don't look at the mess, but she loves being independent.  My son on the
> other hand is a struggle, less vision, not as motivated, and his sister
> like to do for him.  He loves to stir whats in the pan and bake with me,
> but I haven't taught him the microwave yet, that's a def need to do item.
>
> Any advice for getting stuff out of the oven, she is 11, I guess full
> covered hand mitts is the way to go there.
>
> Thanks for the reminder!
> Traci
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Marianne Denning via blindkid <
> blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
>> I really think they don't know how to provide the instruction to a
>> blind child. It takes thinking differently for them.  I know hen I
>> taught my sighted children to cook I had to think in a sighted way.  I
>> am a born teacher so it wasn't hard for me, but most parents aren't
>> born teachers.  I know many parents don't teach any of their children
>> to cook.  Most sighted children learn by observation.  Blind children
>> have to be specifically taught. When I was growing up it was just Mom
>> and me so when she cooked I hung out in the kitchen with her so
>> learned what she was doing through repeated exposure.  She was not
>> good at teaching me to cook but I learned a lot by being there.  I am
>> also naturally curious so am always asking questions and exploring my
>> world.  I hope families encourage the curiosity in their blind
>> children.  That is even true for children who have significantly
>> decreased vision.
>>
>> On 10/27/15, Roanna Bacchus via blindkid <blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> > Hi Marianne thanks for your message.  Many times I have been
>> > asked to set the table or stir one of the dishes that are being
>> > prepared.  What are your thoughts about how sighted family
>> > members treat blind children?
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > blindkid mailing list
>> > blindkid at nfbnet.org
>> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindkid_nfbnet.org
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>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
>> Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
>> (513) 607-6053
>>
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>
>
>
> --
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Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
(513) 607-6053



From marianne at denningweb.com  Wed Oct 28 16:31:29 2015
From: marianne at denningweb.com (Marianne Denning)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 12:31:29 -0400
Subject: [blindkid] How Blind Children can help with
	ThanksgivingPreparations
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Silicone was the material I was thinking of earlier.  We also have the
gloves for our exchange student.  I used pot holders when I started
but oven mitts and gloves are a lot safer.

On 10/28/15, Carol Castellano via blindkid <blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> For the oven, a blind friend of ours taught my daughter to open the oven
> and go down the side of the opening with her hand and then check where the
> racks are, before having the pan in your hands.
>
> She suggested practicing this with an empty pan and a cold oven.  It was
> great advice.
>
> Also, there are silicone covered oven GLOVES, as opposed to mitts, which
> allow movement of the fingers.  My daughter finds these much better for her
> to use.
>
> Carol
>
> Carol Castellano
> Parents of Blind Children-NJ
> National Organization of Parents of Blind Children
> 973-377-0976
> carol_castellano at verizon.net
> www.blindchildren.org
> www.nopbc.org
>
> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Traci Wilkerson via blindkid <
> blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
>> My daughter loves to cook as well.  I've recently adopted the rule "if you
>> don't like the leftovers, make your own dinner" and that is what she does!
>> :)  I'm not a great teacher or very patient, but I do my best and just
>> don't look at the mess, but she loves being independent.  My son on the
>> other hand is a struggle, less vision, not as motivated, and his sister
>> like to do for him.  He loves to stir whats in the pan and bake with me,
>> but I haven't taught him the microwave yet, that's a def need to do item.
>>
>> Any advice for getting stuff out of the oven, she is 11, I guess full
>> covered hand mitts is the way to go there.
>>
>> Thanks for the reminder!
>> Traci
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Marianne Denning via blindkid <
>> blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> > I really think they don't know how to provide the instruction to a
>> > blind child. It takes thinking differently for them.  I know hen I
>> > taught my sighted children to cook I had to think in a sighted way.  I
>> > am a born teacher so it wasn't hard for me, but most parents aren't
>> > born teachers.  I know many parents don't teach any of their children
>> > to cook.  Most sighted children learn by observation.  Blind children
>> > have to be specifically taught. When I was growing up it was just Mom
>> > and me so when she cooked I hung out in the kitchen with her so
>> > learned what she was doing through repeated exposure.  She was not
>> > good at teaching me to cook but I learned a lot by being there.  I am
>> > also naturally curious so am always asking questions and exploring my
>> > world.  I hope families encourage the curiosity in their blind
>> > children.  That is even true for children who have significantly
>> > decreased vision.
>> >
>> > On 10/27/15, Roanna Bacchus via blindkid <blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> > > Hi Marianne thanks for your message.  Many times I have been
>> > > asked to set the table or stir one of the dishes that are being
>> > > prepared.  What are your thoughts about how sighted family
>> > > members treat blind children?
>> > >
>> > > _______________________________________________
>> > > blindkid mailing list
>> > > blindkid at nfbnet.org
>> > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindkid_nfbnet.org
>> > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> > > blindkid:
>> > >
>> >
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>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
>> > Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
>> > (513) 607-6053
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > blindkid mailing list
>> > blindkid at nfbnet.org
>> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindkid_nfbnet.org
>> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
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>> >
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>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Traci Wilkerson
>> Cell ? 919-971-6526
>> _______________________________________________
>> blindkid mailing list
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Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
(513) 607-6053



From traci.mwd at gmail.com  Wed Oct 28 16:51:41 2015
From: traci.mwd at gmail.com (Traci Wilkerson)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 12:51:41 -0400
Subject: [blindkid] How Blind Children can help with
	ThanksgivingPreparations
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I do have one silicone glove, will pick up another for her.  Thanks for the
tips!

On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Marianne Denning via blindkid <
blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Silicone was the material I was thinking of earlier.  We also have the
> gloves for our exchange student.  I used pot holders when I started
> but oven mitts and gloves are a lot safer.
>
> On 10/28/15, Carol Castellano via blindkid <blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> > For the oven, a blind friend of ours taught my daughter to open the oven
> > and go down the side of the opening with her hand and then check where
> the
> > racks are, before having the pan in your hands.
> >
> > She suggested practicing this with an empty pan and a cold oven.  It was
> > great advice.
> >
> > Also, there are silicone covered oven GLOVES, as opposed to mitts, which
> > allow movement of the fingers.  My daughter finds these much better for
> her
> > to use.
> >
> > Carol
> >
> > Carol Castellano
> > Parents of Blind Children-NJ
> > National Organization of Parents of Blind Children
> > 973-377-0976
> > carol_castellano at verizon.net
> > www.blindchildren.org
> > www.nopbc.org
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Traci Wilkerson via blindkid <
> > blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> >> My daughter loves to cook as well.  I've recently adopted the rule "if
> you
> >> don't like the leftovers, make your own dinner" and that is what she
> does!
> >> :)  I'm not a great teacher or very patient, but I do my best and just
> >> don't look at the mess, but she loves being independent.  My son on the
> >> other hand is a struggle, less vision, not as motivated, and his sister
> >> like to do for him.  He loves to stir whats in the pan and bake with me,
> >> but I haven't taught him the microwave yet, that's a def need to do
> item.
> >>
> >> Any advice for getting stuff out of the oven, she is 11, I guess full
> >> covered hand mitts is the way to go there.
> >>
> >> Thanks for the reminder!
> >> Traci
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Marianne Denning via blindkid <
> >> blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I really think they don't know how to provide the instruction to a
> >> > blind child. It takes thinking differently for them.  I know hen I
> >> > taught my sighted children to cook I had to think in a sighted way.  I
> >> > am a born teacher so it wasn't hard for me, but most parents aren't
> >> > born teachers.  I know many parents don't teach any of their children
> >> > to cook.  Most sighted children learn by observation.  Blind children
> >> > have to be specifically taught. When I was growing up it was just Mom
> >> > and me so when she cooked I hung out in the kitchen with her so
> >> > learned what she was doing through repeated exposure.  She was not
> >> > good at teaching me to cook but I learned a lot by being there.  I am
> >> > also naturally curious so am always asking questions and exploring my
> >> > world.  I hope families encourage the curiosity in their blind
> >> > children.  That is even true for children who have significantly
> >> > decreased vision.
> >> >
> >> > On 10/27/15, Roanna Bacchus via blindkid <blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >> > > Hi Marianne thanks for your message.  Many times I have been
> >> > > asked to set the table or stir one of the dishes that are being
> >> > > prepared.  What are your thoughts about how sighted family
> >> > > members treat blind children?
> >> > >
> >> > > _______________________________________________
> >> > > blindkid mailing list
> >> > > blindkid at nfbnet.org
> >> > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindkid_nfbnet.org
> >> > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
> for
> >> > > blindkid:
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindkid_nfbnet.org/marianne%40denningweb.com
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
> >> > Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
> >> > (513) 607-6053
> >> >
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > blindkid mailing list
> >> > blindkid at nfbnet.org
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> >> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> >> > blindkid:
> >> >
> >>
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> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Traci Wilkerson
> >> Cell ? 919-971-6526
> >> _______________________________________________
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>
>
> --
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> Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
> (513) 607-6053
>
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Cell ? 919-971-6526


From arielle71 at gmail.com  Wed Oct 28 20:31:35 2015
From: arielle71 at gmail.com (Arielle Silverman)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 13:31:35 -0700
Subject: [blindkid] How Sighted Family members treat their Blind
	Relatives
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I had similar experiences with all three of my living grandparents
growing up. It's unfortunate because I think if they had understood
blindness and nonvisual skills better, I would have had better
relationships with them before they died. While my grandparents lived
close and saw my parents and me a lot, these things often happened
when I was staying in their homes without my parents to intervene or
correct. For example, I recall when I was 11 years old, my grandfather
not believing that I could dial the telephone independently while I
was visiting his house, and my grandmother (on the other side of the
family) doubting my ability to take a shower independently around the
same age. Without my parents, my grandparents had authority, and it
was very difficult for me as a child to educate them. I think
blindness can be even more confusing for family members who don't see
the blind child frequently. I know it may be a challenge to educate
grandparents and other more distant family members, but I do think it
is a worthwhile thing to try to do in order to help the relative build
a strong loving relationship with the child. It is very hard to have a
good relationship with someone who doubts your ability to do things,
even (and especially) when that person is a family member.

Arielle

On 10/28/15, Traci Wilkerson via blindkid <blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Easy, my MIL will still try to spoon feed my 9 and 10 year old!!!  I
> promptly tell her to put the spoon down!  She is not comfortable with their
> blindness, does not encourage canes, drags them around, etc.  Makes me
> crazy.  Not someone who will ever get it, but I talk about it all the time
> with my kids that b/c she has a problem, does not make it their problem and
> they need to keep doing what they do!  :)
>
> Traci
>
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 3:29 PM, Roanna Bacchus via blindkid <
> blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
>> Dear Parents,
>>
>> The subject of this email stems from something that happened to me a few
>> Summers ago.  My grandmother from Canada was vsisting us for a few weeks.
>> One day when I went to heat my lunch up, she called my older sister into
>> the kitchen to heat my food up for me.  After that she explained that she
>> had forgotten that I could heat up my food in the microwave.  My sighted
>> family members do not treat me like I am two years old.  Most of them have
>> no problem letting me do things on my own.  I find that many sighted
>> people
>> want to learn about how blind individuals accomplish certain things.  I'd
>> love to hear your thoughts on this topic.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>
>
>
> --
> Traci Wilkerson
> Cell ? 919-971-6526
> _______________________________________________
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From eric at pmpmail.com  Fri Oct 30 01:02:42 2015
From: eric at pmpmail.com (Eric Calhoun)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 20:02:42 -0500
Subject: [blindkid] How sighted relatives treat their blind children
Message-ID: <DE.0C.17346.E12C2365@sl-mta07.smtp.com>

My mom, Traci, invited me to l, e, a, r, n.  I had trouble trusting some
relatives.  Over time, I began to hear it from Mom about the way they were
treating me.  I was spending a summer in Philadelphia in 1986..   One
Wednesday summer day in August, we were promised, (me and my sister,) to go
to the New Jersey State Fair in Cherry Hill.  After forever waiting, I
began to conclude that my aunt was lying.  So, I devised a plan that I
would wait for no one when I turned 18; (I was 12 at the time,) I would ask
a friend, or take public transportation, and that would be that.  I'm 41
now, and I have followed through!

Eric
..

Eric from Los Angeles reminds you to remember to try to be good to each
other.  eric at pmpmail.com; also on Facebook.


From nfbmn-news at nfbnet.org  Sat Oct 31 02:28:23 2015
From: nfbmn-news at nfbnet.org (Jennifer Dunnam via Nfbmn-news)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 21:28:23 -0500
Subject: [blindkid] LOL Squared Braille Readers Are Leaders Contest for Kids!
Message-ID: <auto-000041091516@mailfront1.g2host.com>

LAND OF LINCOLN/LAND OF LAKES BRAILLE READERS ARE 
LEADERS CONTEST FOR KIDS The National Federations 
of the Blind of Illinois & Minnesota have joined 
together to offer an annual Illinois/Minnesota 
Braille Readers Are Leaders contest for kids, 
grades K-12. Contestants compete to read the most 
Braille pages, going against other kids in 
similar grades at school. The contest runs for 
slightly over 7 weeks, encouraging kids to be 
proud of their Braille reading ability and to 
work to improve their skills -- while possibly 
winning prizes in the process. A thumbnail sketch 
of the contest: ?a certifying official (parent, 
teaacher, etc.) should fill out and submit a 
registration form. This can be done as early as 
November 1, 2015, and as late as January 22, 
2016. ?Kids enter in one of five grrade 
categories: K-1, 2-3, 4-5, 6-8, & 9-12. ?record 
Braaille pages read between December 1, 2015, and 
January 22, 2016, on a reading log. ?the 
certifying official shoulld submit the reading 
log form by February 1, 2016. ?Prrizes in each 
grade category are: first, $25; second, $15; 
third, $10. ?to get the complete contest rules, 
registtration form, and the reading log form, 
visit the website, http://www.nfbofillinois.org, 
then go to link ???LOL Squared BRAL Contest.??? 
?submit the registration form andd the reading 
log as E-mail attachments to 
ibralcontest at gmail.com. If you have questions, 
contact: Deborah Stein E-mail: ibralcontest at gmail.com phone number: 773-203-139 




From goalgirl at bellsouth.net  Sat Oct 31 14:12:57 2015
From: goalgirl at bellsouth.net (Jamie Allison)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 14:12:57 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [blindkid] LOL Squared Braille Readers are Leaders: questions
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I am interested to know if only children in these two states are allowed to participate. When I tried to view the web site, it wasn't working.?
I chair a committee for a school-specific contest at the school for the blind in SC. Since there has been a lapse in the BRAL contests, we have started one at the school very similar. However, I am always on the lookout for other ways the students can improve their reading and comparing the structure of our contest to others so that if something works better, we can adjust.??Jamie Allison
National Federation of the Blindof South Carolina - President, Cherokee Chapter?
Lead Instructor, NFB BELL in SC
The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can have the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back.?To make a donation to the National Federation of the Blind Imagination Fund campaign, please visit?www.nfb.org/ImaginingOurFuture.

From carol.joyce.castellano at gmail.com  Sat Oct 31 22:07:13 2015
From: carol.joyce.castellano at gmail.com (Carol Castellano)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 18:07:13 -0400
Subject: [blindkid] LOL Squared Braille Readers are Leaders: questions
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	<242274815.144571.1446300777102.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
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Hi Jamie,

The link seems to be working now.  Here it is again:
http://nfbofillinois.org/?page_id=543

Looking forward to hearing the answer about other states participating.

Carol

Carol Castellano
Parents of Blind Children-NJ
National Organization of Parents of Blind Children
973-377-0976
carol_castellano at verizon.net
www.blindchildren.org
www.nopbc.org

On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 10:12 AM, Jamie Allison via blindkid <
blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> I am interested to know if only children in these two states are allowed
> to participate. When I tried to view the web site, it wasn't working.
> I chair a committee for a school-specific contest at the school for the
> blind in SC. Since there has been a lapse in the BRAL contests, we have
> started one at the school very similar. However, I am always on the lookout
> for other ways the students can improve their reading and comparing the
> structure of our contest to others so that if something works better, we
> can adjust.  Jamie Allison
> National Federation of the Blindof South Carolina - President, Cherokee
> Chapter
> Lead Instructor, NFB BELL in SC
> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the
> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the
> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles
> between blind people and our dreams. You can have the life you want;
> blindness is not what holds you back. To make a donation to the National
> Federation of the Blind Imagination Fund campaign, please visit
> www.nfb.org/ImaginingOurFuture.
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