[Blind-rollers] Total independence

Thu Aug 30 23:30:39 CDT 2007

I am a very positive lady and would encourage anyone if they feel they can 
do something.
I also if someone were close here in my area would be glad to go help them 
in any way I could.
Just because I also need friends.
And I am able to get out and do things.
Maybe a bit different, but I can do it.

--Dar
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Every Saint has a past
Every Sinner has a future

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Laura Eaves" <leaves1 at carolina.rr.com>
To: "Blind wheelchair users list" <blind-rollers at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 3:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-rollers] Total independence

> Well Dar, there is danger getting around in unfamiliar terrain with a 
> chair
> and a cane -- sure it can be done but even walking blind people have been
> known to take a fall, and a less physically mobile person has that much 
> more
> to worry about (and in my case, there are fragile bones and joints to 
> worry
> about, making even otherwise simple falls much more dangerous.  I have
> broken bones just by stepping the wrong way when I was still walking, so 
> it
> has been very dangerous)
> And there are the usual blindness related challenges doing the chores 
> around
> the house, that are exacerbated by other disabilities.  I don't think I 
> need
> to elaborate. Is there a reason you are interested? I mean do you know
> someone who might benefit by the discussion on this list?
> Just wondering. Comments welcome.
> --le
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "dmgina" <dmgina at qwest.net>
> To: "Blind wheelchair users list" <blind-rollers at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 5:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [Blind-rollers] Total independence
>
>
> What do you say is Dangerous?
> Then we can go from there.
>
>
> --Dar
> www.mypowermall.com/biz/home/5779
> Every Saint has a past
> Every Sinner has a future
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Laura Eaves" <leaves1 at carolina.rr.com>
> To: "Blind wheelchair users list" <blind-rollers at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 1:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [Blind-rollers] Total independence
>
>
>> Yes, the tendency to take the course of least resistance and let people
>> around you do the chores as (1) it's easier and quicker for the disabled
>> person, and (2) the able-bodied person actually has a hard time watching
>> the
>> disabled person try to do something him/herself, partly because it takes
>> longer and partly becausae it looks dangerous -- and sometimes it is
>> dangerous, depending on the activity.
>> But given the proper training and practice and common sense, sometimes
>> what
>> looks dangerous to an AB person isn't really so.
>>
>> Comments?
>> --le
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Bettye Reeves" <birdree at yahoo.com>
>> To: "Blind wheelchair users list" <blind-rollers at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 11:44 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Blind-rollers] Total independence
>>
>>
>> Hi:  This is Birdie, Kassie's mom.  I am eager for her
>> to read this and answer, then I might have more to
>> add. We have really struggled with these issues, and I
>> feel that the longer she lives with us the more
>> dependent she becomes, even though it is not what she
>> or her Dad and I want.  Many times it is just more
>> convenient for us to do something rather than take the
>> extra time for her to figure out how to do it. As she
>> has written in previous e-mails, she is moving into a
>> condo this week, and we have gone  htrough quite a
>> process to get to this point. I'll ket her write what
>> she wants to on this subject, and then I can fill in
>> some from the family's perspective. I also could say a
>> little about the mechanics of how we got various
>> things authorized. Beleive me, Alabama is not a very
>> progressive state when it comes to services, but we
>> have gotten through alot of obstacles to set up a
>> system that should allow her to live on her on. Best
>> regards, Birdie.  P.S. I don't know if Kassie really
>> wants me to read her e-mail contributions to this
>> list. If she doesn't, I will unsubscribe to honor her
>> privacy.  If I do that, rest assured I will remain
>> interested in and supportive of this group.--- Laura
>> Eaves <leaves1 at carolina.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jen --
>>> I have been wondering the same thing.  I know a
>>> disabled person has to
>>> choose his/her battles carefully as there are some
>>> things that will always
>>> require assistance of some kind, human or electronic
>>> or mechanical -- but I
>>> think the person has to determine that for
>>> him/herself and not have an able
>>> bodied person try and dictate what needs to be done,
>>> primarily because they
>>> can't always imagine what it would be like to be in
>>> that situation, or would
>>> think that the only solution would be the easiest in
>>> their mind.
>>>
>>> I have been having this little battle with my
>>> mother, who who believes that
>>> in my current state I ould never be able to be
>>> independent again, and she
>>> makes some compelling arguments, and I know I depend
>>> on her probably
>>> over-much.  But on the other hand she refuses to
>>> help me become more
>>> independent by showing me how to set the dials on
>>> the washing machine (she
>>> insists on doing all the laundry) and she thinks
>>> that because of the
>>> wheelchair in addition to my vision, I should never
>>> again try to cook.  (But
>>> again, when I was young, I had to go away to school
>>> and take a cooking class
>>> myself to learn to cook, as she always thought I
>>> would burn myself on the
>>> oven at home...)
>>>
>>> She always also rminds me of all that needs to be
>>> done for me as she indeed
>>> does "pick up the slack" as she puts it quite a lot.
>>>  I have gotten quite a
>>> bit more dependent than I would like to be, but that
>>> is a 2-way street.
>>>
>>> The clincher for me is that there is not a
>>> satisfactory plan B in the even
>>> she dies (she is a healthy 83, but her health is
>>> failing in little ways even
>>> now), and I really want to be prepared for anything
>>> once she is no longer
>>> around. I think at some point, she will cease to be
>>> able-bodied and we may
>>> both be dependent on outside assistance.  Don't get
>>> me wrong -- Mom and I
>>> have always been a team, albeit we don't agree on
>>> many things -- but back in
>>> college I went out of my way to live on my own for 8
>>> years, and half of that
>>> time I was chair bound.
>>> The times I had to hire a live-in aide were the
>>> worst.  And that might well
>>> be what it will take again as time goes on -- or as
>>> Mom is thinking, I
>>> should be in a hospital -- which bothers me the
>>> most.
>>>
>>> Anyway, I look forward to hearing your thoughts on
>>> the matter.
>>> I would like to live at home with roommates and
>>> depend on hired assistance
>>> if that is possible. We are moving soon and so I
>>> have no idea what we will
>>> find.
>>>
>>> Waiting eagerly for your thoughts...
>>> Have a good day!
>>> --le
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Jennifer Aberdeen" <freespirit328 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "Blind wheelchair users list"
>>> <blind-rollers at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 9:59 PM
>>> Subject: [Blind-rollers] Total independence
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi list,
>>>
>>> My Grandmother and I were just having a discussion
>>> about my mobility
>>> expectations being a blind wheelchair user. She
>>> doesn't think I could ever
>>> be independent being in my situation, and I truly
>>> believe that while I may
>>> not be able to achieve total independence, I can
>>> strive to be as independent
>>> as possible. I keep trying to tell her that it can
>>> be done if only my
>>> mobility instructor would work on a route with me
>>> for more than one
>>> day...perhaps once or twice a week for a couple
>>> months would work. I would
>>> like to be able to take a stroll down the street
>>> without having someone
>>> attached to my hip all the time. I know there are
>>> some situations where it
>>> would be necessary to have someone with me, but I
>>> don't believe I have to
>>> submit to a life of dependence. The thought of
>>> accepting that makes me very
>>> depressed. I thought maybe I would start a
>>> discussion about this and hear
>>> your thoughts on this topic.
>>>
>>> Jen
>>>
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>>
>> Bettye K. Reeves, MA, LPC
>> birdree at yahoo.com
>> 205-792-2898
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