[Arizona-students] RFBD

Fri Dec 7 20:45:08 CST 2007

you woiuld think since high school and college students read braille,  
at least they did when I went to college that this wouild be on topic.

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On Dec 7, 2007, at 7:12 PM, Brandon McGinty wrote:

Appologies if I'm overstepping my bounds on this.
These topics, such as the braille and accessibility issues, are
certainly important.
However, there might be other...venues...where you could bring these
points up.
Possibly on a more general list, or just create your own on freelists.
I get on an average of 30 emails a day, and that's gone to about 40 or
50 since these topics started up on this list.
Doesn't sound like much, but when it comes through priority as aabs
list, I would hope that the content is specific, or more relivent at
least, to the student population at large.

Thank You,
Brandon McGinty

Darrell Shandrow wrote:
> Hi Gabe,
>
> I believe I take a more or less "reasonable" approach to  
> accessibility.
> While we definitely do need accessibility, we're not always going to  
> get it
> instantly in a particular format, for instance, we can't always  
> expect to
> get hardcopy Braille, due to its bulk and high production costs.
>
> Darrell Shandrow - Accessibility Evangelist
> Michele Y. Sinnock (sister): 7/20/1957 - 11/29/2007
> Please visit http://BlindWebAccess.com and sign the petition asking  
> Yahoo!
> to make their CAPTCHA accessible!
> Information should be accessible to us without need of translation by
> another person.
> Blind Access Journal blog and podcast: http://www.blindaccessjournal.com
> Check out high quality telecommunications services at http://ld.net/?nu7i
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "The BlindTechs Network" <info at theblindtechsnetwork.com>
> To: "Arizona Association of Blind Students List"
> <arizona-students at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 1:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [Arizona-students] RFBD
>
>
> funny how you only see accessibility in your own view point huh?
>
> The BlindTechs Network
> www.theblindtechsnetwork.com
> info at theblindtechsnetwork.com
> 602-903-3852
>
>
>
> On Dec 6, 2007, at 10:47 PM, Darrell Shandrow wrote:
>
> Hello Gabe,
>
> Well, hmm, there's a huge difference.  If a web site is inaccessible,
> then
> you're completely or partially locked out, not able to participate.
> On the
> other hand, you are able to participate so long as something is
> provided to
> you in a way that reasonably accomodates your needs, without  
> necessarily
> being given hardcopy Braille.  You know this...  :-)
>
> Darrell Shandrow - Accessibility Evangelist
> Michele Y. Sinnock (sister): 7/20/1957 - 11/29/2007
> Please visit http://BlindWebAccess.com and sign the petition asking
> Yahoo!
> to make their CAPTCHA accessible!
> Information should be accessible to us without need of translation by
> another person.
> Blind Access Journal blog and podcast: http://www.blindaccessjournal.com
> Check out high quality telecommunications services at http://ld.net/?nu7i
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "The BlindTechs Network" <info at theblindtechsnetwork.com>
> To: "Arizona Association of Blind Students List"
> <arizona-students at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 10:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [Arizona-students] RFBD
>
>
> hey darel: maybe website accessibility is too costly to considder when
> designing a website because it will cost too much time.
>
>
> The BlindTechs Network
> www.theblindtechsnetwork.com
> info at theblindtechsnetwork.com
> 602-903-3852
>
>
>
> On Dec 6, 2007, at 8:45 PM, Darrell Shandrow wrote:
>
> Hey Gabe,
>
> Wow!  This sounds like something you need to possibly take up with
> Allison
> and/or Bob personally, and doesn't even seem at all relevant to this
> thread.
> Besides, well, since you do have a computer, couldn't you accept most
> things
> in some sort of accessible electronic format instead?  Braille is
> incredibly
> costly to produce in hardcopy form.
>
> Darrell Shandrow - Accessibility Evangelist
> Michele Y. Sinnock (sister): 7/20/1957 - 11/29/2007
> Please visit http://BlindWebAccess.com and sign the petition asking
> Yahoo!
> to make their CAPTCHA accessible!
> Information should be accessible to us without need of translation by
> another person.
> Blind Access Journal blog and podcast: http://www.blindaccessjournal.com
> Check out high quality telecommunications services at http://ld.net/?nu7i
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "The BlindTechs Network" <info at theblindtechsnetwork.com>
> To: "Arizona Association of Blind Students List"
> <arizona-students at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 6:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [Arizona-students] RFBD
>
>
> simply that I have been contacted by bob and was told by alison that I
> would receive braille about local information on transportation
> comitiee info and visits with law makers etc and never received it.
> surely it doesn't take mail that long to travel from tucson to  
> phoenix?
> The BlindTechs Network
> www.theblindtechsnetwork.com
> info at theblindtechsnetwork.com
> 602-903-3852
>
>
>
> On Dec 6, 2007, at 5:17 PM, Tony Sohl wrote:
>
> Hi Gabe, what do you mean by this question?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "The BlindTechs Network" <info at theblindtechsnetwork.com>
> To: "Arizona Association of Blind Students List"
> <arizona-students at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 3:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [Arizona-students] RFBD
>
>
>
>> when am I going to receive my braille?
>>
>> Gabe Vega
>>
>> The BlindTechs Network
>> www.theblindtechsnetwork.com
>> info at theblindtechsnetwork.com
>> 602-903-3852
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 6, 2007, at 3:43 PM, Allison Hilliker wrote:
>>
>> When is RFBD going to work with the VR Stream?  An E-mail I got from
>> Humanware in October said that RFBD files would work in November.
>> It's
>> December and I haven't heard anything so I'm curious.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Allison
>>
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